RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J)

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crsutton -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (9/12/2014 2:26:34 AM)
Well, welcome back. Glad you had a good time.

obvert -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (9/12/2014 10:16:56 AM)
July 23 - 27, 1942 Looks like I'm more behind than I realized here. I'll do some brief reports and try to get caught up. SUBS: Some I-boats are hanging around the Northern New Hebrides and up to the area around Ndeni. A few attacks and two xAP lost, but after dropping the troops. INDIA: Building fields here as troops get ready for the next push forward. The Allahabad/Benares area will be the main bombing base complex for the next stage. More US bomber groups are still arriving in India, and soon I'll be able to use two different air fleets on separate sides of the sub-continent. Pacific: The bases in the Gilberts continue to solidify. Tabiteuaea now has an airbase and I'll begin building a port. The Ellice Islands have started developing into forward staging areas for supplies and units, and a Marine Defense force is on the way in. A frogmen of an infantry regiment will land on Ndeni in the hope of taking the base soon. CHINA: Lots of bombing continuing against both troops and fields. Supply is getting scarce. On the 26th I moved some Lightnings into Chungking and LR CAPed Chikhiang. Managed to shoot down around 20+ Sallys, which was nice, but it didn't really slow the bombing after a one day layoff. The Japanese attacked south of Chikhiang, but only got a 1:6 result, and lost a good number of squads disabled to almost none for the Chinese. [:)] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 26, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 86th Chinese Corps, at 78,51 , near Chihkiang Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-21-Ic Sally x 26 Ki-21-IIa Sally x 58 Ki-49-Ia Helen x 6 Allied aircraft P-38E Lightning x 10 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21-Ic Sally: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 destroyed, 10 damaged No Allied losses Allied ground losses: 64 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 21 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 28 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 6 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 5 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 17 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb CAP engaged: 51st FG/25th FS with P-38E Lightning (10 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (10 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 10 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 6000. Raid is overhead -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 27, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Efate at 118,153 Japanese Ships SS I-174 Allied Ships xAP Kepong, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage xAP Kajang xAP Ipoh xAKL Pahang AM Townsville SS I-174 launches 2 torpedoes at xAP Kepong AM Townsville fails to find sub, continues to search... Escort abandons search for sub -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 78,51 (near Chihkiang) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 36766 troops, 402 guns, 309 vehicles, Assault Value = 997 Defending force 40270 troops, 129 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1126 Japanese adjusted assault: 391 Allied adjusted defense: 2386 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 6 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 4281 casualties reported Squads: 21 destroyed, 318 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 41 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled Allied ground losses: 284 casualties reported Squads: 3 destroyed, 52 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Assaulting units: 34th Division 60th Division 69th Division 15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment 1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment 2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment 3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment 13th Army 4th Mortar Battalion 14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 5th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion Defending units: 84th Chinese Corps 73rd Chinese Corps 70th Chinese Corps 86th Chinese Corps -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 28, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Submarine attack near Luganville at 120,150 Japanese Ships SS I-168 Allied Ships xAP Durenda, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage xAP Durenda is sighted by SS I-168 SS I-168 attacking on the surface -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ships Sunk: Loss of xAP Kepong on Jul 27, 1942 is admitted Loss of xAP Durenda on Jul 28, 1942 is admitted [image]local://upfiles/37283/7CF0AA7A11B943C7812F1A78D6A0A510.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (9/12/2014 1:36:28 PM)
July 29 - August 2, 1942 SUBS: Another xAK lost near Luganville. I've moved in some Bolos to try to keep the subs down at least. INDIA: On July 30 Nick tests the defenses over Gorakhpur with a few sweeps. The A6M3 come in first and don't do so well. The Martlet and P-40E CAP at 20k gets a 2:1 against them, maybe even more once ops are taken into account. Thinking that this is one of the big expert groups, this is a great result. Maybe he's switched out one pilots? The Tojos come next though and mop up. Only a few lost to ops while the take out 8-10 of the defenders. Oscars came through after and found nothing still up. Nick comments these results worry him, but since they worry me too, it's all about even! [;)] I'm still a few weeks from serious counters in the air. I've got to get some more bombers up to speed and the groups enlarged on August 1st, of course diluting the pilot pool. I'l knot be able to sweep the big bases, but I can work around the edges a bit hopefully. Pacific: Sent in a bombardment at Tarawa. Nothing major, just wanted to see if it had an effect and what was there. Just a Naval Guard unit present currently. Namumea was taken by a small Aussie independent company. These little units are really useful for the way I like to play. Experienced, easily transported, easily flown, expendable. CHINA: Netties begin strat bombing in China. Could spell trouble. Fires get started at Chengtu resulting in a few factories lost. Wenchow is also begin hit. The P-38s linger and take out another 7-10 IJAAF 2E bombers on the 1st. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 29, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Tarawa at 136,128 Allied Ships CA Louisville CA Northampton DD Worden DD Downes DD Lang DD Wilson DD Henley Japanese ground losses: 201 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 15 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Port hits 6 Port supply hits 1 SOC-1 Seagull acting as spotter for CA Louisville CA Louisville firing at Tarawa CA Northampton firing at 88th Naval Guard Unit -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Luganville at 120,150 Japanese Ships SS I-5 Allied Ships xAK San Lucas, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage xAP Demosthenes xAK Capillo xAK Admiral Wiley PC Morris SS I-5 launches 4 torpedoes at xAK San Lucas I-5 bottoming out .... PC Morris fails to find sub, continues to search... PC Morris fails to find sub, continues to search... Escort abandons search for sub -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 30, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Gorakhpur , at 54,26 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 14 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 45 Allied aircraft Martlet II x 20 P-40E Warhawk x 25 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3 Zero: 6 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Martlet II: 2 destroyed P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 21 x A6M3 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet CAP engaged: No.881 Sqn FAA with Martlet II (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 10 scrambling) 3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 17000 and 20000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes 23rd FG/74th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 13 scrambling) 4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 26000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Gorakhpur , at 54,26 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 19 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 36 Allied aircraft Martlet II x 7 P-40E Warhawk x 12 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses Martlet II: 3 destroyed P-40E Warhawk: 4 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 26 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 20000 feet CAP engaged: No.881 Sqn FAA with Martlet II (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 22000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes 23rd FG/74th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 12 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 19000 and 24000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Nanumea (136,141) Allied Shock attack Attacking force 218 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7 Defending force 28 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1 Allied adjusted assault: 5 Japanese adjusted defense: 1 Allied assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 0) Allied forces CAPTURE Nanumea !!! Combat modifiers Defender: Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-), disruption(-) Japanese ground losses: 19 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Units destroyed 1 Assaulting units: 2/4th Ind Coy Defending units: 52nd Nav Gd /2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR August 1, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Chengtu , at 75,41 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 9 minutes Japanese aircraft G3M2 Nell x 42 G4M1 Betty x 34 No Japanese losses Manpower hits 44 Fires 5883 Aircraft Attacking: 42 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 10000 feet City Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 25 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 10000 feet City Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 9 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 10000 feet City Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/4B26D5E8715F4554A7DE2BB40A1A1BA7.jpg[/image] For the 31st we came out just about even, so I guess this is good for the Allies. Especially since it's over our base. A lot of Japanese pilots lost there.

Skyros -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (9/12/2014 6:46:28 PM)
I thought this chart on Monsoon Affects and Supply Caps might be useful since it impacts Northern Australia along with China, Burma and India. It is based on the stock game, but I think it is the same in the DBB. [image]local://upfiles/1408/2BEAE3A9D1D14A86924F5A4F639B4049.jpg[/image]

witpqs -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (9/12/2014 8:48:06 PM)
"Monsoon" does not affect all bases with a supply cap, only those that also have the monsoon effects checked off in the scenario file.

obvert -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (9/12/2014 11:40:08 PM)
I've never seen that chart! Thanks!

Skyros -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (9/13/2014 12:57:00 AM)
That would be the ME in the last column for Monsoon Effect. quote: ORIGINAL: witpqs "Monsoon" does not affect all bases with a supply cap, only those that also have the monsoon effects checked off in the scenario file.

witpqs -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (9/13/2014 1:12:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Skyros That would be the ME in the last column for Monsoon Effect. quote: ORIGINAL: witpqs "Monsoon" does not affect all bases with a supply cap, only those that also have the monsoon effects checked off in the scenario file. Doh! [:D]

obvert -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (9/13/2014 11:09:13 AM)
August 3 - 6, 1942 SUBS: Silversides runs into what looks to be a replenishment TF for the KB near Kusaie Island. Sure enough, an element of the KB is sighted near Kweijalen the next day. It didn't strike, but Cats have been moved to Johnston Island and Midway to check for any raiding going on further toward the West Coast. A massive convoy looking like it's carrying significant troops is attacking by the Greenling near Tandjoengbalai. I couldn't see the TF during the turn to find out which direction it's going. Is it more troops for India? [:)] INDIA: Nothing happening here now except shifting air units to newly built up forward bases. Allahabad will reach level 8 within the next week or so. Pacific: Ndeni falls to our small force. I'll fly in some engineers once the remnants of the Japanese unit are cleared away. I have some small xAKL that will try to move in with supply now that I can supply a bit of air cover from Vanua Lava. CHINA: Near Chikhiang the IJA tries a DA on the 3rd and gets a 1:2. This is significantly better than the 1:6 last time. The air forces are taking a toll on our troops, and in spite of the level 3 forts in x3 terrain, it's a tough hold now. The next DA on the 5th did only get a 1:3, but it's time to replace some of these worn down troops before a total collapse. I'm moving in another small 180AV Corps that is well rested, and I'll then start switching out the two big depleted Corps for fresh. If I can make this work without losing the hex it could buy another few months here. I need to make every day count until I can reconquer NE India up to Ledo. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR August 3, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Kusaie Island at 122,119 Japanese Ships AO Naruto SC Ch 25 AO Teibo AO Iro APD Tade DD Numakaze DD Yukaze DD Shiokaze Allied Ships SS Silversides SS Silversides launches 2 torpedoes at AO Naruto Silversides diving deep .... DD Numakaze attacking submerged sub .... DD Numakaze is out of ASW ammo DD Yukaze fails to find sub and abandons search DD Shiokaze fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Numakaze fails to find sub and abandons search Escort abandons search for sub Ground combat at 78,51 (near Chihkiang) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 35933 troops, 467 guns, 730 vehicles, Assault Value = 1125 Defending force 38185 troops, 127 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 933 Japanese adjusted assault: 740 Allied adjusted defense: 1573 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 1467 casualties reported Squads: 7 destroyed, 129 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 19 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled Allied ground losses: 291 casualties reported Squads: 4 destroyed, 62 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Assaulting units: 15th Division 1st Tank Division 69th Division 2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment 3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment 4th Mortar Battalion Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment 14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 13th Army 6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment 4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 5th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion Defending units: 73rd Chinese Corps 84th Chinese Corps 70th Chinese Corps 86th Chinese Corps -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR August 5, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 78,51 (near Chihkiang) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 34256 troops, 450 guns, 730 vehicles, Assault Value = 977 Defending force 37278 troops, 126 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 817 Japanese adjusted assault: 781 Allied adjusted defense: 2581 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 3 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 1972 casualties reported Squads: 4 destroyed, 191 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled Allied ground losses: 581 casualties reported Squads: 6 destroyed, 71 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled Assaulting units: 1st Tank Division 15th Division 69th Division 4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment 13th Army Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment 4th Mortar Battalion 6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment 5th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion Defending units: 84th Chinese Corps 73rd Chinese Corps 70th Chinese Corps 86th Chinese Corps -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Ndeni (120,143) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 431 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 22 Defending force 172 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 9 Allied adjusted assault: 7 Japanese adjusted defense: 1 Allied assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 0) Allied forces CAPTURE Ndeni !!! Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 37 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 18 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: 2/7th Ind Coy 148th Infantry Rgt /2 Defending units: 53rd Nav Gd /1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR August 6, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Tandjoengbalai at 48,78 Japanese Ships APD Shimakaze PB Hakkaisan Maru PB Chosa Maru AMC Kinryu Maru DMS W-15 DMS W-7 AV Sagara Maru AV Kiyokawa Maru AV Kamikawa Maru APD Fuji APD Nadakaze AK Ayatosan Maru AK Sakito Maru xAK Yasukawa Maru xAK Manko Maru xAK Mogamigawa Maru xAK Noto Maru xAK Naruto Maru xAK Nichiyu Maru xAK Onoe Maru xAK Yamazato Maru xAK Yamakaze Maru xAK Tamon Maru xAK Tatukami Maru xAK Kamogawa Maru xAK Aobasan Maru xAK Hakkai Maru xAK Azuma Maru PC Sumire PB Sinko Maru PB Yodozo Maru PB Okiyu Maru Allied Ships SS Greenling SS Greenling launches 2 torpedoes at APD Shimakaze Greenling bottoming out .... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/C03CB31C0107436697CC33397917E737.jpg[/image] Tabieuaea is nearly finished with its airfield. Other bases nearby are moving to level 2-3. I'm only moving supply via subs and troops with small TFs now. Not much to catch here, and mines and PTs are installed and being increased. So far so good.

JocMeister -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (9/13/2014 11:32:55 AM)
Can you really rotate anything out from that hex without it being absolutely pummeled by the arty? Even in combat move anything trying to get out was as good as dead by the time it got out of the hex.

ny59giants -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (9/13/2014 12:15:01 PM)
Naval Search - I would take some time during an upcoming turn to review your PBY and Catalina placement. Use the "Z" key to show any search arcs so you can find gaps. Its easy to think a single PBY group on a base like Johnson Island is enough when right now having two there would protect your northern flank in the Gilberts. I bet Jocke wished he had been more thoughtful in his PBY placement vs Mr Kane. [;)] To supplement these groups, I train up some of the early war Wirraway groups that stay for the whole war in ASW and then Naval Search to be used around Australia. These upgrade to the LR version Hudsons.

Lokasenna -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (9/13/2014 3:54:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister Can you really rotate anything out from that hex without it being absolutely pummeled by the arty? Even in combat move anything trying to get out was as good as dead by the time it got out of the hex. Reserve mode!

obvert -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (9/13/2014 9:54:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lokasenna quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister Can you really rotate anything out from that hex without it being absolutely pummeled by the arty? Even in combat move anything trying to get out was as good as dead by the time it got out of the hex. Reserve mode! That's it exactly! I use it all the time. Both moving in and out, and sometimes just to rest a unit in the hex for a few turns. It helps here that it's a good road, so only a few turns in and out. I sometimes just use combat moving for two turns, then reserve for the last and get them out in three days.

Lokasenna -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (9/13/2014 9:58:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: obvert quote: ORIGINAL: Lokasenna quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister Can you really rotate anything out from that hex without it being absolutely pummeled by the arty? Even in combat move anything trying to get out was as good as dead by the time it got out of the hex. Reserve mode! That's it exactly! I use it all the time. Both moving in and out, and sometimes just to rest a unit in the hex for a few turns. It helps here that it's a good road, so only a few turns in and out. I sometimes just use combat moving for two turns, then reserve for the last and get them out in three days. One little thing about Reserve Mode. Sometimes, the unit will still be bombed from the air and suffer disruption, even if other units are present in the hex. It seems it just depends on which unit gets targeted by the air targeting routines... It might be that the unit this has happened to me with was targeted first before I put it into reserve mode. Bombings have kept up without any days of rest, so they just never stopped targeting that LCU? I don't know.

obvert -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (9/13/2014 9:59:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants Naval Search - I would take some time during an upcoming turn to review your PBY and Catalina placement. Use the "Z" key to show any search arcs so you can find gaps. Its easy to think a single PBY group on a base like Johnson Island is enough when right now having two there would protect your northern flank in the Gilberts. I bet Jocke wished he had been more thoughtful in his PBY placement vs Mr Kane. [;)] To supplement these groups, I train up some of the early war Wirraway groups that stay for the whole war in ASW and then Naval Search to be used around Australia. These upgrade to the LR version Hudsons. I don't use arcs often, as I find search works better set to random. There isn't much to catch between Pearl and the line islands as most is coming direct from the WC now, so it would be tough to pass through to a further area. I have several more PBY groups in the area though. One on Baker Island, one on Onotoa, and one in the Ellice Islands. Down at Fiji I have the LR Hudsons, some Cats and Hudsons in the New Hebrides, and more Hudons along the Oz coastline. Been training search first for all Aussie bomber units. [:)] There are a lot of subs transiting the PH Gilbert route too, so those should help to pick something up in the area.

obvert -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (9/14/2014 7:06:43 AM)
August 7 - 9, 1942 INDIA: On the 9th I tried a two pronged air strike to test defenses in the area. Bombers from Bombay went for Warangal supported by the fighters at Sholapur and other bases. Thunderstorms in the hex severely reduced bombing effectiveness, and there was no CAP. It seems he's still sticking to a 0 hex CAP at Hyderabad. The other strike went to Pacific: Nothing major happening and no response to the Ndeni grab. CHINA: The IJA keeps trying near Chikhiang, this time a Shock attack that achieved only a 1:2. A good number of vehicles were disabled, and a few squads and vehicles destroyed. The switch out of troops is nearly complete. Having one unit moving in reserve mode probably was one of the reasons the Japanese didn't take more destroyed and disabled squads from this unsuccessful SA. The Lightnings continue to be pesky and rack up kills, knocking down 3 Sonia. SIGINT: Only a few minor SIGINT reports of interest lately. A division moving to Bataan. Seems like consolidation and defense of the inner Empire might be starting. 11/1st Division is loaded on xAK Kiso Maru moving to Bataan. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR August 9, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Warangal , at 40,33 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Allied aircraft Blenheim IV x 48 B-17E Fortress x 10 Allied aircraft losses Blenheim IV: 2 damaged B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged Runway hits 1 Aircraft Attacking: 16 x Blenheim IV bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Yokosuka 5th SNLF, at 48,37 (Cuttack) Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Allied aircraft Wellington Ic x 24 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 303 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 26 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 12 x Wellington Ic bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x Wellington Ic bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 78,51 (near Chihkiang) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 25409 troops, 378 guns, 861 vehicles, Assault Value = 803 Defending force 41284 troops, 157 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 917 Japanese adjusted assault: 733 Allied adjusted defense: 1195 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 713 casualties reported Squads: 6 destroyed, 75 disabled Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 12 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 15 disabled Vehicles lost 47 (7 destroyed, 40 disabled) Allied ground losses: 911 casualties reported Squads: 9 destroyed, 94 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled Assaulting units: 1st Tank Division 13th Tank Regiment 51st Division 23rd Tank Regiment 7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment 4th Mortar Battalion 1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 13th Army 3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment 5th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion Defending units: 9th Prov Chinese Corps 73rd Chinese Corps 84th Chinese Corps 70th Chinese Corps 86th Chinese Corps -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/D6FD429F6DDE4AFF876FEE91BC14F585.jpg[/image] Here is a plan for the next stage in India. The most risky op yet. I'll try to paradrop three bases and then fill in by flying support to the two with airfields, and railing in to all three. No major units will be used, so if this fails miserably losses will be kept to a minimum. This will happen in conjunction with another op on the other side of India threatening to encircle Hyderabad. Ranchi (size 3) and Patna (size 4) must be dealt with as part of this op, but I'm still working out the best way to make it happen. Patna has about 180 fighters right now, so no easy task.

JocMeister -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (9/14/2014 8:15:33 AM)
What Tom did whenever I tried to rotate something out was to set every bomber in range to ground attack that hex. Even in x3 terrain I would take 300-800 losses per turn. After doing that for 2-3 days he would launch a deliberate attack before the beaten up LCU got out and the fresh one got in. Worked very well for him! [X(]

obvert -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (9/14/2014 8:35:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister What Tom did whenever I tried to rotate something out was to set every bomber in range to ground attack that hex. Even in x3 terrain I would take 300-800 losses per turn. After doing that for 2-3 days he would launch a deliberate attack before the beaten up LCU got out and the fresh one got in. Worked very well for him! [X(] Nick is actually doing pretty much the same thing! He hasn't stopped bombing the 78,51 hex for weeks, and when there is an attack or he sees something moving the frequency goes up. I've only been able to slow that with the P-38s showing up occasionally. Because 3 of the 4 units have level 3 forts the bombings don't seem to hurt much here in terms of disabled squads. It's 5-10 a day, but they seem to recover close to that as well. He'll break through eventually I'm sure, and he's already making inroads in the mountains, by moving more units down the long road where the armor is entrenched. The longer I can last in the hex's in from of he river in the center, the more difficult it'll be to pull the trigger on a river tossing later, I'm thinking.

crsutton -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (9/14/2014 4:17:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JocMeister What Tom did whenever I tried to rotate something out was to set every bomber in range to ground attack that hex. Even in x3 terrain I would take 300-800 losses per turn. After doing that for 2-3 days he would launch a deliberate attack before the beaten up LCU got out and the fresh one got in. Worked very well for him! [X(] I think a lot of players miss that every one of those river valley hexes from Cawnpore to Calcutta is a major road hex. This is a big advantage for the Allies due to strategic road bonus. Another reason I like to see the Japanese player commit to fighting in India.

obvert -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (9/14/2014 10:49:31 PM)
I admit I forget about the strat mode on roads the Allies can do. Note to self! Thanks.

crsutton -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (9/15/2014 12:08:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: obvert I admit I forget about the strat mode on roads the Allies can do. Note to self! Thanks. You know, I am reading both AARs and now think I should have not mentioned it as it might be construed as giving you an unfair advantage. I honestly don't know if GJ is aware of this (although he should be[;)]). Please send him a PM and let him know that I mentioned this and it is only fair that he knows as well. Sorry for saying too much but I think it is OK if both of you are aware of it.

obvert -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (9/15/2014 9:09:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: crsutton quote: ORIGINAL: obvert I admit I forget about the strat mode on roads the Allies can do. Note to self! Thanks. You know, I am reading both AARs and now think I should have not mentioned it as it might be construed as giving you an unfair advantage. I honestly don't know if GJ is aware of this (although he should be[;)]). Please send him a PM and let him know that I mentioned this and it is only fair that he knows as well. Sorry for saying too much but I think it is OK if both of you are aware of it. Will do. Doesn't seem like an advantage though as it's really just stuff in the game that we easily could look up in the manual. You're just giving me a timely reminder, but unless I can get the air war under control it's not going to make a lot of difference anyway. I'm sure there are things I'm not aware of that are posted in his AAR from time to time too! [:)]

obvert -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (9/15/2014 11:26:20 AM)
August 10 - 12, 1942 Some context before the fireworks begin. SUBS: The intrepid I-18 tries and attack at Luganville and eats a mine for its trouble. More on the way to Ndeni where a number of subs have been hanging out. The USS Keokuk is coming in handy down here. INDIA: Preparing some things. More should be happening within the week here. Pacific: Supply and base building is going well in the Pacific. No sign of the KB or anything else moving around right now. I've been slowly installing Canadian and small US troops on the bases in the Aleutians just in case Nick tries anything before the winter up here so there are no easy grabs. Each base is built to 3 forts and has a field now. Adak and Dutch are up to 6 forts and each has CD guns and arty to make any real landing tough and bloody. CHINA: The IJA tries yet another DA near Chikhiang, this time getting a 1:5 and taking lots of disabled and even some destroyed squads. Happily the transfer of troops went well and a fresh 350AV unit is installed and rushing to dig in. The P-38s also hit some IJN 2Es bombing, destroying 8-10 planes for no losses. I'll now fly them back to India to make sure the low supply in China doesn't get them stuck here. I also need them to sweep soon if I wan tot start moving forward there again. SIGINT: A few more divisions moving around within the Empire. 8/48th Division is loaded on xAK Okiyu Maru moving to Singapore. 7/1st Division is loaded on a Husimi Cargo class xAK moving to Bataan. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR August 11, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on 21st Group Army, at 73,49 , near Kweiyang Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Japanese aircraft G3M2 Nell x 33 G4M1 Betty x 27 Allied aircraft P-38E Lightning x 4 Japanese aircraft losses G3M2 Nell: 4 destroyed, 4 damaged No Allied losses Allied ground losses: 505 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 44 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 26 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 27 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb CAP engaged: 51st FG/25th FS with P-38E Lightning (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000. Raid is overhead -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR August 12, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 240 encounters mine field at Luganville (120,150) Japanese Ships SS I-18, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 78,51 (near Chihkiang) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 34135 troops, 387 guns, 469 vehicles, Assault Value = 1019 Defending force 42440 troops, 156 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1085 Japanese adjusted assault: 507 Allied adjusted defense: 2734 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 5 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 2539 casualties reported Squads: 9 destroyed, 230 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 40 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled) Vehicles lost 51 (6 destroyed, 45 disabled) Allied ground losses: 768 casualties reported Squads: 7 destroyed, 74 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Assaulting units: 51st Division 23rd Tank Regiment 3rd Division 13th Tank Regiment 19th Tank Regiment 14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 13th Army 2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment 4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment 4th Mortar Battalion 5th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion Defending units: 70th Chinese Corps 37th Chinese Corps 84th Chinese Corps 9th Prov Chinese Corps 86th Chinese Corps -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/5FD78CA6710E49BBB5CA12C1937EA289.jpg[/image] Wish I could operate more fighters in China. It's even going to be impossible to drop them in occasionally soon with the supply situation.

obvert -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (9/15/2014 12:07:26 PM)
August 13 - 14, 1942 INDIA: Nick goes for the CAP at Sholapur on the 13th. This prompts all kinds of action. His Tojos do okay, but are not as dominant as I'd feared. The CAP loses about 21 planes to a reported 16 Tojos downed. I'll take that over my own base. Because I knew the Tojo groups would either be reduced and weakened, or even replaced in the Cap over Hyderabad, I decided it was time to try out a direct strike. I knew this could fail miserably, but at some point I have to try things here. I set all planes from Bombay to strike, and put up a lot of LR CAP and sweeps, but didn't use any escorts. This is a method I've not used a lot so I wanted to see how it would work, and I've now learned some things. The CAP was indeed replaced with fresh A6M types and some Nicks. The sweeps reduced the numbers a bit, but once the bombers came in the LR CAP was also reduced and a lot of Blenheims went down. I hate giving away kills, but at least losing 55 Blemheims is better than 55 4E. To top it off, thunderstorms reduced the effect of the bombing, and the LR CAP took a lot of losses as well. Thankfully our troops are in the hex, so pilot losses were not as heavy as they could have been. After all of the strikes it looks like about 30-40 damage on the base and it lists 51 fighters still there, but I doubt the numbers are correct. I also went for Patna! [:)] This went slightly better as there were no thunderstorms. Still had to fight through a massive CAP of A6M and Oscars. Lost a good number of Wellingtons and B-25C, but the B-26 and the 4E did get to the base and put a decent level of damage on it. Looks like 40-45 damage on the rollover, but of course, who knows for sure. Here the Wildcats from the Enterprise were on LR CAP along with a bunch of Martlets and P-40E, but unfortunately the sweeps arrived late and by the time the last got there nothing was up. This is my first big 4E (and 2E) strike, and I'm happy I pulled the trigger. It sends notice more than anything that the Allies won't simply sit back, and that although losses will sometimes be severe, I'll continue to try to push. All planes in the area around Hyderabad go back to Bombay to recoup, and I'll now upgrade to some P-38F there as well as filling out some B-17F groups to get them ready. At Patna I'll keep going, which is dicey, but it seems there is an opportunity to close the base enough to be able to conduct paradrops and subsequently fly troops in. The range of Japanese planes will allow some LR CAP even if Patna is closed, but it'll surely make him have to adjust if I can do this, and I want to start making the Japanese react a bit to at least see how he'll choose to do that. This is as much about learning my opponent as anything else. [;)] On the day the Allies lose around 265 airframes, but not so many pilots as I would have thought. About 90 KIA and another 50 MIA. The Japanese lose around 90 airframes. Unsustainable, of course, but this kind of a strike will be rare. CHINA: A massive bombardment hurts the now fortifying troops near Chinkiang. More fresh ones on the way as well. He's got a huge amount of arty in the hex now. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR August 13, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Sholapur , at 36,29 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 22 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 12 Allied aircraft P-43A-1 Lancer x 7 Buffalo I x 9 Hurricane IIc Trop x 9 P-400 Airacobra x 14 P-40E Warhawk x 42 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 3 destroyed No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Sholapur , at 36,29 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 42 Allied aircraft P-43A-1 Lancer x 7 Buffalo I x 9 Hurricane IIc Trop x 7 P-400 Airacobra x 11 P-40E Warhawk x 41 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-43A-1 Lancer: 1 destroyed Buffalo I: 1 destroyed P-40E Warhawk: 4 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 23 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 20000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Sholapur , at 36,29 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 36 Allied aircraft P-43A-1 Lancer x 3 Buffalo I x 5 Hurricane IIc Trop x 7 P-400 Airacobra x 5 P-40E Warhawk x 27 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 7 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-400 Airacobra: 1 destroyed P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 20 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 20000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR August 14, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just a sampling of the many events of the day. Morning Air attack on Hyderabad , at 39,32 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 12 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 2 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 45 A6M3 Zero x 27 A6M3a Zero x 45 Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 33 Allied aircraft P-43A-1 Lancer x 6 Sea Hurricane Ib x 31 Buffalo I x 8 Mohawk IV x 10 P-39D Airacobra x 16 P-400 Airacobra x 12 P-40E Warhawk x 12 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-43A-1 Lancer: 1 destroyed Sea Hurricane Ib: 3 destroyed P-400 Airacobra: 3 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 17 x Sea Hurricane Ib sweeping at 20000 feet * -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Hyderabad , at 39,32 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 19 A6M3 Zero x 5 A6M3a Zero x 13 Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 10 Allied aircraft Blenheim I x 15 Blenheim IV x 48 Mohawk IV x 1 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses Blenheim IV: 8 destroyed, 12 damaged Blenheim IV: 2 destroyed by flak Airbase hits 1 Airbase supply hits 3 Runway hits 8 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Patna , at 54,30 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 57 A6M3a Zero x 45 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 42 Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 30 Allied aircraft Martlet II x 16 Hurricane IIa Trop x 13 Hurricane IIb Trop x 13 Hurricane IIc Trop x 16 Mohawk IV x 10 P-40E Warhawk x 25 F4F-3A Wildcat x 6 F4F-3 Wildcat x 14 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3 Zero: 3 destroyed Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Martlet II: 1 destroyed P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 16 x Hurricane IIc Trop sweeping at 20000 feet 7 x P-40E Warhawk sweeping at 20000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Patna , at 54,30 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 48 A6M3a Zero x 41 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 40 Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 28 Allied aircraft Martlet II x 3 Hurricane IIb Trop x 10 Mohawk IV x 10 B-17E Fortress x 15 LB-30 Liberator x 3 B-25C Mitchell x 6 B-26 Marauder x 63 P-39D Airacobra x 12 F4F-3A Wildcat x 22 F4F-3 Wildcat x 10 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed A6M3a Zero: 2 destroyed Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed on ground Allied aircraft losses Hurricane IIb Trop: 4 destroyed Mohawk IV: 2 destroyed B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak B-26 Marauder: 4 destroyed, 12 damaged B-26 Marauder: 1 destroyed by flak Airbase hits 8 Airbase supply hits 5 Runway hits 42 Aircraft Attacking: 15 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Patna , at 54,30 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 10 A6M3a Zero x 9 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 5 Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 1 Allied aircraft Wellington Ic x 12 B-17E Fortress x 36 P-39D Airacobra x 5 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3 Zero: 1 damaged A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Wellington Ic: 3 damaged B-17E Fortress: 14 damaged Airbase hits 14 Airbase supply hits 3 Runway hits 15 Aircraft Attacking: 9 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 78,51 (near Chihkiang) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 3699 troops, 212 guns, 325 vehicles, Assault Value = 758 Defending force 40743 troops, 156 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 932 Allied ground losses: 259 casualties reported Squads: 11 destroyed, 18 disabled Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled) Assaulting units: 51st/A Division 3rd/B Division 19th Tank Regiment 3rd/A Division 51st/C Division 51st/B Division 3rd/C Division 13th Army 4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 13th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment 3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment 15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment 12th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment 7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 4th Mortar Battalion 11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 5th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion Defending units: 9th Prov Chinese Corps 70th Chinese Corps 37th Chinese Corps 84th Chinese Corps 86th Chinese Corps -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/24A44FA261814DF6A3686884ED959719.jpg[/image] This is what I've built my pool sup for, but I'd hoped to avoid such a massive loss in one day. No such luck.

Lowpe -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (9/15/2014 12:33:19 PM)
Blenheims are so fragile...the Allied equivalent of a Lilly.

obvert -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (9/15/2014 1:11:23 PM)
This kind of a day in the war would be a complete disaster. About 30-35% losses. Yikes. One thing I'm learning is not to trust LR CAP alone to protect bombers. It's useful, but not a replacement for escorts. I've got to get comfortable with the Allied material used offensively. I have lots of ideas, and I have great examples in what Jocke and Torsten have done. I just want to tweak things a little and not buy into the idea that I have to always wipe out the strongpoint. This time I've had to go for it, but I won't always.

koniu -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (9/16/2014 9:35:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: obvert This kind of a day in the war would be a complete disaster. About 30-35% losses. Yikes. In real world, day like that will probably stop any air offensive for weeks if not for months. In game, few days and You fight again. quote: ORIGINAL: obvert One thing I'm learning is not to trust LR CAP alone to protect bombers. It's useful, but not a replacement for escorts. I've got to get comfortable with the Allied material used offensively. I have lots of ideas, and I have great examples in what Jocke and Torsten have done. I just want to tweak things a little and not buy into the idea that I have to always wipe out the strongpoint. This time I've had to go for it, but I won't always. Offensive LCAP is great weapon (sometimes) but also it messing up with game air engine. Especially when multiple groups and big plane numbers are involved. My experience show that usually it works against person using it. LCAP is helping bombers because it works like high altitude escort but very often it disturb sweeps not allowing or limiting numbers of sweeping planes that can intercept enemy CAP

PaxMondo -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (9/16/2014 12:32:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: koniu quote: ORIGINAL: obvert This kind of a day in the war would be a complete disaster. About 30-35% losses. Yikes. In real world, day like that will probably stop any air offensive for weeks if not for months. In game, few days and You fight again. Yeah, there needs to be a heavier morale hit when you have this type of loss. Should knock it back all the way to 35 - 40% in this case. That would force you to ground that unit and/or pull it back to rear area for a bit to recuperate ... if you do try to fly it again, it will fail most of the checks, launch in fragments, likely abort on the way to target, and suffer more morale loss. I suspect and beleive that Henderson simply ran out of time on a lot of things. You can look at the game from a developer perspective and see so many 'hooks' that are not fully utilized, this is an example of one. Units do take a morale hit, but not a serious one. I suspect they simply ran out of time to fully test and so left the implementation incomplete. If you think about the amount of testing required just to balance this one minor feature .... Maybe what we can do is form a players beta union. The union could propose some minor adjustment projects to Michael like this. Set up a test bed where it can be initially tweaked and readily tested (shared with Michael for that purpose), then test in some test H2H test games to confirm magnitude, then released as part of the beta. I can think of 20 - 30 minor items like this easily. I can also think of a number of people here who would be good candidates for that union ... let me start with both of you. [;)] Experienced. Level headed. ... Just a thought ...

SqzMyLemon -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (9/16/2014 8:30:37 PM)
Erik, I understand your attempt to suppress Patna prior to your planned airborne operations, but what are you trying to achieve at Hyderabad with your air operations? Are you trying to suppress the airbase prior to launching ground bombing missions against the defenders? Do you even need to suppress the airbase at all to support a ground assault? I wonder if it wouldn't be more productive to isolate Hyderabad first by taking the surrounding bases before trying to confront the bulk of Japan's air defences head on? As long as GreyJoy is allowed to mass his air defence at Hyderabad and Patna, I see you suffering unsustainable air losses without necessarily contributing towards your actual objectives. Perhaps I'm not seeing something clearly?

obvert -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (9/19/2014 8:55:37 PM)
Sorry for the radio silence. I was on a foggy hill in Scotland with only intermittent WIFI and a group of 14 students for the last few days. Feel good about the NO vote up there. Interesting to be there when it happened, and have several people around voting each side. They all handled it well, and there seemed to be no animosity, which was good. quote: ORIGINAL: koniu quote: ORIGINAL: obvert This kind of a day in the war would be a complete disaster. About 30-35% losses. Yikes. In real world, day like that will probably stop any air offensive for weeks if not for months. In game, few days and You fight again. It has for me too! Not because I wanted to stop completely, but for several reasons. One, I hate giving away kills, and I don't have a solid long term bombing objective yet that requires me to keep it going. This was done for experimentation and I needed to take a hit to get the info I wanted. Two, many of the units were in fact shattered and would have given a poor fight the next day. quote: quote: ORIGINAL: obvert One thing I'm learning is not to trust LR CAP alone to protect bombers. It's useful, but not a replacement for escorts. I've got to get comfortable with the Allied material used offensively. I have lots of ideas, and I have great examples in what Jocke and Torsten have done. I just want to tweak things a little and not buy into the idea that I have to always wipe out the strongpoint. This time I've had to go for it, but I won't always. Offensive LCAP is great weapon (sometimes) but also it messing up with game air engine. Especially when multiple groups and big plane numbers are involved. My experience show that usually it works against person using it. LCAP is helping bombers because it works like high altitude escort but very often it disturb sweeps not allowing or limiting numbers of sweeping planes that can intercept enemy CAP I agree. It's one of the things I wanted to figure out on the Allied side, and early indications are to use it only as a small part of the whole package.

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