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obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (8/6/2017 3:44:15 AM)
Then came the fun stuff. The IJN had apparently tried an intercept during the night and got hung out to dry without much LR CAP. Oh oh ... [8D] These were all penetrating shots with severe or critical damage messages. Looking good for the boys in blue here!! [8D] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Kunashiri at 125,52 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 24 SBD-3 Dauntless x 36 Allied aircraft losses SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 damaged Japanese Ships CA Haguro, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Kuri DD Oyashio DD Hibiki Aircraft Attacking: 8 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Kunashiri at 125,52 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Allied aircraft F2A-3 Buffalo x 9 TBD-1 Devastator x 7 No Allied losses Japanese Ships DD Oyashio, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires DD Hibiki, Bomb hits 1, on fire Aircraft Attacking: 7 x TBD-1 Devastator bombing from 1000 feet * Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/0CB2EBF7FF424B7C9BAE0BF1D239F42A.jpg[/image]

witpqs -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (8/6/2017 3:55:15 AM)
Hey, come on! Don't keep us waiting!

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (8/6/2017 3:57:44 AM)
Got a bit of a hit on the fields at Ichang, loaded with bombers with no CAP. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Ichang , at 83,48 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft Hudson I x 16 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 destroyed on ground Allied aircraft losses Hudson I: 1 damaged Hudson I: 1 destroyed by flak Airbase hits 1 Runway hits 12 Aircraft Attacking: 6 x Hudson I bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Ichang , at 83,48 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft Hudson I x 3 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 destroyed on ground Allied aircraft losses Hudson I: 1 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Ichang , at 83,48 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft Blenheim I x 22 Blenheim IF x 10 Blenheim IV x 13 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 destroyed on ground Allied aircraft losses Blenheim IV: 1 damaged Airbase hits 5 Airbase supply hits 3 Runway hits 22 Aircraft Attacking: 16 x Blenheim I bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (8/6/2017 4:03:51 AM)
Then the coup de Grace. A large strike hits the IJN main SCTF with BB Nagato and CA Mogami. I wish Mogami could have taken a few more of those 1000lb hits, but I'll take it!! [&o] The one fish that hit caused major engine damage, so this may be something to pursue again tomorrow. I'll be careful, but there are a lot of Soviet subs in the area and there is an extra Marine fighter group and a DB group on the CVs. I'll be hunting to send these ships under. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Shikotan at 126,56 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 2 Allied aircraft F2A-3 Buffalo x 9 F4F-3 Wildcat x 24 SBD-3 Dauntless x 90 TBD-1 Devastator x 7 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses SBD-3 Dauntless: 2 damaged TBD-1 Devastator: 1 damaged Japanese Ships BB Nagato, Bomb hits 20, Torpedo hits 1, on fire CA Mogami, Bomb hits 2, on fire DD Asakaze DD Isokaze, Bomb hits 1 DD Mutsuki, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage TB Sagi, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires DD Shiranui Aircraft Attacking: 8 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/F65095E04DBA48908616A68F340E15F8.jpg[/image]

witpqs -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (8/6/2017 4:08:40 AM)
Stick around??? Where are his carriers? Even IJN destroyers could deal crippling damage to a force so far from a friendly base.

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (8/6/2017 4:21:25 AM)
Jan 30, 1942 SOVIETS: The naval battles over, the final blow of the day came as the Soviets got a 44:1 attack near Rashin and devastated the IJA troops. Eight units retreated, which means the border fortress is still hanging on. I'll hit it tomorrow and head for Rashin, which has another brigade sized unit and should fall easily. This could really spell danger for the Japanese in Manchuria. Rashin would give us a very good base in MiG range of central Manchuria. It could also be changed to US command and any other Allied planes could use the base. Yikes!! Hurricanes here and some 4Es would be pretty fun to see. [:)] I'll measure my enthusiasm for now, but it's looking good in the North. DEI: The 4Es are still repairing. I've reorganised and filled out some groups, retired some others, not lost plane numbers but got some small groups out to spend time training while others filled out to full size and now are using all of the best pilots. This is for nailing Djambi in the next week, trying to wipe the remaining 150 oil points out, then aiming for Palembang. The other positive on the ground is that Tarakan holds again easily in spite of intense bombing. The IJ naval guard units take big disablements again while Dutch forces hold strong. He'll have to land more here. That could hurt if supply lasts. He may just wait it out. CHINA: Sweeps clear the air at Hong Kong. I'll add bombers tomorrow. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 30, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Tarakan (67,91) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 4832 troops, 57 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 146 Defending force 5248 troops, 61 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 115 Japanese adjusted assault: 46 Allied adjusted defense: 130 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 1) Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 183 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 47 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 117 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: Sasebo 3rd SNLF Sasebo 8th SNLF Yokosuka 4th SNLF 51st Air Defense AA Regiment Defending units: 35th Avn Sup II Samarinda Cdo I Samarinda Cdo I/43rd PS Inf Battalion VII KNIL Battalion Makassar KNIL Cdo HQ TC Borneo Tarakan Defenses Tarakan MLD Base Force -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 110,45 (near Rashin) Allied Shock attack Attacking force 40668 troops, 693 guns, 671 vehicles, Assault Value = 1816 Defending force 7064 troops, 132 guns, 177 vehicles, Assault Value = 175 Allied adjusted assault: 2024 Japanese adjusted defense: 45 Allied assault odds: 44 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), supply(-) [A supply minus?? Interesting] Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 2877 casualties reported Squads: 92 destroyed, 50 disabled Non Combat: 39 destroyed, 40 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Guns lost 102 (54 destroyed, 48 disabled) Vehicles lost 97 (55 destroyed, 42 disabled) Units retreated 8 Allied ground losses: 485 casualties reported Squads: 8 destroyed, 32 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 3 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled Vehicles lost 19 (7 destroyed, 12 disabled) Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 1st Amurskaya Tank Brigade 126th Rifle Division 46th Engr-Sapper Bde 77th Tank Brigade 105th Rifle Division 72nd Tank Brigade 75th Tank Brigade 47th Engr-Sapper Bde 76th Tank Brigade 190th Rifle Division 3rd Amurskaya Tank Brigade 1132nd Howitzer Regiment 424th Hvy Howitzer Regiment 52nd Cannon Regiment 1192nd BM Howitzer Regiment 1194th BM Howitzer Regiment 215th Howitzer Regiment 78th/186th PVO AA Battalion 1134th Howitzer Regiment 199th BM Howitzer Regiment 1132nd Howitzer Regiment 15th Army 145th Howitzer Regiment Defending units: 88th Infantry Regiment 9th Border Defense Fortress 4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 12th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment 2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment 11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 13th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Five more DDs hit as well. I've got to count it up, but the IJN has to be struggling for good DDs at this point. Subs will be tough for them from now on. [image]local://upfiles/37283/A924295C172D4F3E86E7BF50198E6302.jpg[/image]

witpqs -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (8/6/2017 4:24:36 AM)
[&o] Well done! [&o]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (8/6/2017 4:29:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: witpqs Stick around??? Where are his carriers? Even IJN destroyers could deal crippling damage to a force so far from a friendly base. Last sight of the KB was in the Dei, but of course they could have moved up. I know two of the CVs were here but Shokaku and Zuikaku groups were in the fighting at Shikuka, and one of them I think was destroyed at Toyohara. Shokaku 1 was in the fight there and a zero group was destroyed on the ground. The Soryu zeros were at Singers just a few turns argo too. So I think the KB is down there or some of their fighter groups were landed in the DEI. He only has about 4-5 undamaged IJN DDs here it seems, but of course more could be lurking around Tokyo/Yokohama. It's a gamble, but I'll try with the Warspite and company to hit the retiring wounded and stay in LR CAP range at least.

BBfanboy -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (8/6/2017 3:08:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: obvert Jan 30, 1942 Ground combat at 110,45 (near Rashin) Allied Shock attack Attacking force 40668 troops, 693 guns, 671 vehicles, Assault Value = 1816 Defending force 7064 troops, 132 guns, 177 vehicles, Assault Value = 175 Allied adjusted assault: 2024 Japanese adjusted defense: 45 Allied assault odds: 44 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), supply(-) [A supply minus?? Interesting] Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 2877 casualties reported Squads: 92 destroyed, 50 disabled Non Combat: 39 destroyed, 40 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Guns lost 102 (54 destroyed, 48 disabled) Vehicles lost 97 (55 destroyed, 42 disabled) Units retreated 8 Allied ground losses: 485 casualties reported Squads: 8 destroyed, 32 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 3 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled Vehicles lost 19 (7 destroyed, 12 disabled) Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 1st Amurskaya Tank Brigade 126th Rifle Division 46th Engr-Sapper Bde 77th Tank Brigade 105th Rifle Division 72nd Tank Brigade 75th Tank Brigade 47th Engr-Sapper Bde 76th Tank Brigade 190th Rifle Division 3rd Amurskaya Tank Brigade 1132nd Howitzer Regiment 424th Hvy Howitzer Regiment 52nd Cannon Regiment 1192nd BM Howitzer Regiment 1194th BM Howitzer Regiment 215th Howitzer Regiment 78th/186th PVO AA Battalion 1134th Howitzer Regiment 199th BM Howitzer Regiment 1132nd Howitzer Regiment 15th Army 145th Howitzer Regiment Defending units: 88th Infantry Regiment 9th Border Defense Fortress 4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 12th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment 2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment 11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 13th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unless he redistributed them before Russia activated, a huge part of the Manchukuo garrison was at Mutankiang. I think what is happening at the fort near Rashin is that he sent a lot of units via strat mode to Yenki and then switched to move mode to march down to the border fort. The Arty and Mortar units likely only needed one day to pack and one day to unpack for this trip, while the infantry and tank units (if any were still there) would need at least two days, maybe three days for packing and again for unpacking. Thus you ended up hitting all that artillery and mortars, perhaps when they had just arrived in the hex and had not switched to combat mode. This would explain the "Supply (-)" because the units just arrived and supply flow had not yet adjusted to their new location. But if my guess is correct there will be a lot of AV power coming from Yenki to stop you. IMO Russian tanks are the best way to stop the Japanese at this point because their anti-armour values are so poor.

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (8/8/2017 4:40:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy Unless he redistributed them before Russia activated, a huge part of the Manchukuo garrison was at Mutankiang. I think what is happening at the fort near Rashin is that he sent a lot of units via strat mode to Yenki and then switched to move mode to march down to the border fort. The Arty and Mortar units likely only needed one day to pack and one day to unpack for this trip, while the infantry and tank units (if any were still there) would need at least two days, maybe three days for packing and again for unpacking. Thus you ended up hitting all that artillery and mortars, perhaps when they had just arrived in the hex and had not switched to combat mode. This would explain the "Supply (-)" because the units just arrived and supply flow had not yet adjusted to their new location. But if my guess is correct there will be a lot of AV power coming from Yenki to stop you. IMO Russian tanks are the best way to stop the Japanese at this point because their anti-armour values are so poor. He actually had a problem with a massive garrison allocation at some base, I think he said Mukden, which kept most of his troops there. He's had ample time to move them though, and sent some quite far forward already. This is somehow just a blind spot he didn't think of getting to yet, it seems. It looks like a division or two are now in Yenki, but a few turns ago it was looking like a brigade with some arty. The ones here had arrived at least a few days before, so should have been in combat mode easily. I do see him now shifting more forces around to help. We'll see if it's in time! [:)]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (8/8/2017 5:18:39 PM)
Jeff is taking some time with the next turn. I don't want to report until I've seen the turn file. Sorry for the delay. It's an interesting (and somewhat scary) turn. [;)]

BBfanboy -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (8/8/2017 6:08:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: obvert Jeff is taking some time with the next turn. I don't want to report until I've seen the turn file. Sorry for the delay. It's an interesting (and somewhat scary) turn. [;)] Interesting is an understatement. This is the most unconventional few opening months of the GC I have ever seen! Fascinating, and kudos to both of you for not shying away from the risky stuff!

Macclan5 -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (8/8/2017 7:04:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy quote: ORIGINAL: obvert Jeff is taking some time with the next turn. I don't want to report until I've seen the turn file. Sorry for the delay. It's an interesting (and somewhat scary) turn. [;)] Interesting is an understatement. This is the most unconventional few opening months of the GC I have ever seen! Fascinating, and kudos to both of you for not shying away from the risky stuff! +1 I cannot even fathom leaving a USN CV Task force off the coast of the Home Islands after a mini-successful 'Doolittle raid'. Both players are commended ! The honorable crsuutton underscores my own point as well ; the war is over. Simply keep punching the same shoulder. I sincerely hope both opponents continue for some time; but there is no way for Japan to sustain TOE upgrades, supply and wage offensive operations in Burma / Manchuria / "inner co-prosperity sphere" while at the same time building resources to upgrade industry / R&D / stockpile for the home islands. All this while stategic bombing the home islands from Soviet Airspace (with or without great results) ? I would note - just to emphasis the point.. all the offensive operations are in Singers / DEI / China... so whats up in the Coral Sea ? Whats up in New Guinea ? Whats up in the Gilberts and Marshalls ? If the empire is there (assumption) how are those troops being supplied and fortified ? Probably not at all.

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (8/9/2017 3:13:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy quote: ORIGINAL: obvert Jeff is taking some time with the next turn. I don't want to report until I've seen the turn file. Sorry for the delay. It's an interesting (and somewhat scary) turn. [;)] Interesting is an understatement. This is the most unconventional few opening months of the GC I have ever seen! Fascinating, and kudos to both of you for not shying away from the risky stuff! Yeah, well, it's teaching me a LOT!! [;)]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (8/9/2017 3:18:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Macclan5 quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy quote: ORIGINAL: obvert Jeff is taking some time with the next turn. I don't want to report until I've seen the turn file. Sorry for the delay. It's an interesting (and somewhat scary) turn. [;)] Interesting is an understatement. This is the most unconventional few opening months of the GC I have ever seen! Fascinating, and kudos to both of you for not shying away from the risky stuff! +1 I cannot even fathom leaving a USN CV Task force off the coast of the Home Islands after a mini-successful 'Doolittle raid'. Both players are commended ! The honorable crsuutton underscores my own point as well ; the war is over. Simply keep punching the same shoulder. I sincerely hope both opponents continue for some time; but there is no way for Japan to sustain TOE upgrades, supply and wage offensive operations in Burma / Manchuria / "inner co-prosperity sphere" while at the same time building resources to upgrade industry / R&D / stockpile for the home islands. All this while stategic bombing the home islands from Soviet Airspace (with or without great results) ? I would note - just to emphasis the point.. all the offensive operations are in Singers / DEI / China... so whats up in the Coral Sea ? Whats up in New Guinea ? Whats up in the Gilberts and Marshalls ? If the empire is there (assumption) how are those troops being supplied and fortified ? Probably not at all. It may be foolhardy, but I have to think Halsey would have pursued for a day here with a severely wounded BB nearby and very low DL the previous day. Anyway, I-oats suck, but without revealing to much it looks like the danger is not mortal so far. I will get outta dodge now. I do have LBA support from a nearby (Soviet) base which is part of my thinking here. [:)] I still think it's going to be tough, but Japan will have some successes still. There are a lot of unaccounted divisions available right now. If they're no in the PI and not attacking Singers and not in China or Manchuria, where are they? [&:]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (8/11/2017 10:18:18 AM)
Jan 31, 1942 SUBS: Damn. The I-157 starts the turn for Japan with a fish in the side of Sara. She's got 19 float damage and can make good speed so should be able to get out if no other boats are encountered. Have two dedicated ASW TFs here and the Soviets are sending in another. An I-boat also sinks an xAKL on the Canadian west coast. Good to see them here rather than chasing my CVs. PACIFIC: The CVs near Japan whiff, not even getting a sighting of the damaged ships from the previous day, and are swarmed by well escorted Betties. The results are predictable, and Halsey decides to flank out to hopefully remove the CVs from any more strikes. The Warspite is actually worst off with 39 float damage and some to engines, limiting to 4 hexes per phase, but if she can get out of range should be fine to make it home. Finger crossed for tomorrow. The Russians will try to help out by sending in their fast DDs for a bombardment on Bihoro, where the main strike originated. I'll also put on some night bombing of the airfield. Even a few hits could lower morale and affect any strike that come out, likely reducing their effective range. No Kuril bases have strike ability other than for FP or patrols, but hopefully we can handle the little FPs and big Mavis if they come. DEI: P-38s hit Djambi again, wiping out another 10 or so A6M2. They get a 5:1 on the day. I'm wondering if pilots skill is beginning to drop on the Japanese side. I'll keep it going and add some 4E to hit the oil tomorrow. It's a new month, and while not much extra is coming the Dutch get some Hurri IIb which cold really help here. I'd like to focus on Sumatra, working on the airframe pools and pilot reserves, then after the current supply mission for Banjarmasin props that base up into some usefulness, begin sweeping and hitting Balikpapan hard. The Dutch have NO engineers, so I have to use bought out US and RAF base forces to fix up fields everywhere. CHINA: Two tank regiments have moved to Kiuchuan in the Chinese West and our two Corps are 2-3 days out. There is a base force and one fort in the x2 territory, and our bombers struck for 4-5 vehicles on the day. More are now in place and I'll try to thwart this incursion with air strength before the Corps can arrive to save the day. A base force is also coming up the road so there is the possibility of trapping these units or bombing them to dust if they can't win the base. Pray for good weather, although we are bombing from three separate bases, so something should fly. SOVIETS: The industry bombing takes to the night while the moon is bright and some fires are started at Mukden and Harbin. I'll keep working the bases and eventually this will all accumulate to hurt the Japanese economy white a bit I think. The ground forces kill off the border fortress and will now move to Rashin. He seems to be sending a bunch of troops into the coastal base next door, so we may not be able to get there before it's built up to strength. The IJA forces in Koutou will be cut off tomorrow by our forward tanks if they don't rail out immediately. They have movement showing, but not sure when they were set. There is one division outside the base which is looking pretty vulnerable now as bombing commences on it and it's main supply line is about to be cut. SIGINT: Some interesting notes here. The Japanese are still moving troops to Malaya, so this campaign may be a long one. I've just loaded up a fast 17 knot xAK and will try to begin sneaking supply into Singers while he's not looking. 3/144th Infantry Regiment is loaded on xAK Nishimi Maru moving to Kota Bharu. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 31, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Submarine attack near Annette Island at 196,43 Japanese Ships SS I-3 Allied Ships xAKL Columbian, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage xAKL Columbian is sighted by SS I-3 SS I-3 attacking on the surface -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Kushiro at 125,56 Japanese Ships SS I-157 Allied Ships CV Saratoga, Torpedo hits 1, on fire BB Warspite DD Preston DD Hughes DD Kilty DD Clark DD Perkins DD Cushing Fuel storage explosion on CV Saratoga SS I-157 launches 6 torpedoes at CV Saratoga I-157 diving deep .... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Harbin , at 109,39 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Allied aircraft TB-3 x 5 No Allied losses Manpower hits 11 Fires 3675 Aircraft Attacking: 5 x TB-3 bombing from 8000 feet City Attack: 8 x 250 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Mukden , at 104,42 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 14 minutes Allied aircraft DB-3M x 8 No Allied losses Manpower hits 6 Fires 1465 Aircraft Attacking: 8 x DB-3M bombing from 8000 feet City Attack: 10 x 100 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Hong Kong , at 77,61 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 11 Ki-27b Nate x 11 Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 1 Allied aircraft Hurricane IIb Trop x 9 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed Ki-27b Nate: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Hong Kong , at 77,61 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 10 Ki-27b Nate x 5 Allied aircraft H81-A3 x 13 Hurricane IIa Trop x 12 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed Ki-27b Nate: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses H81-A3: 1 destroyed Hurricane IIa Trop: 1 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 10 x Hurricane IIa Trop sweeping at 22000 feet * -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Djambi , at 48,88 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 16 Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 1 Allied aircraft P-38E Lightning x 15 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 6 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-38E Lightning: 1 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 3 x P-38E Lightning sweeping at 27000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Kushiro at 125,56 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 58 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 20 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 17 G4M1 Betty x 20 Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 19 Allied aircraft F2A-3 Buffalo x 9 F4F-3 Wildcat x 39 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F2A-3 Buffalo: 1 destroyed F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed Allied Ships CV Yorktown, Torpedo hits 1 BB Warspite, Torpedo hits 1 Aircraft Attacking: 19 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 15th Tank Regiment, at 82,26 (Kiuchuan) Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 3 minutes Allied aircraft Blenheim I x 5 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled) Aircraft Attacking: 5 x Blenheim I bombing from 5000 feet * Ground Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 11th/A Division, at 116,41 , near Bikin Weather in hex: Light rain Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Allied aircraft I-15bis x 21 SB-2 x 27 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 223 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 15th Tank Regiment, at 82,26 (Kiuchuan) Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 6 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 2 minutes Allied aircraft A-24 Banshee x 7 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kushiro at 125,56 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 60 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 21 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 7 G4M1 Betty x 9 Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 5 Allied aircraft F2A-3 Buffalo x 9 F4F-3 Wildcat x 13 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F2A-3 Buffalo: 1 destroyed Allied Ships CV Yorktown Aircraft Attacking: 4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Clark Field (79,76) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 1014 troops, 92 guns, 93 vehicles, Assault Value = 471 Defending force 22489 troops, 327 guns, 169 vehicles, Assault Value = 718 Japanese ground losses: Guns lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled) Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled) Assaulting units: 48th Division 8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment 15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion Defending units: 11th PA Infantry Division 301st Construction Battalion 194th Tank Battalion 192nd Tank Battalion 31st PA Infantry Division 31st Infantry Regiment 26th PS Cavalry Regiment 21st PA Infantry Division 1st Constabulary Regiment I/Prov'nl SPM Grp II/Prov'nl SPM Grp Far East USAAF 24th PS FA Regiment 86th PS Field Artillery Battalion 88th PS Field Artillery Regiment 200th & 515th Coast AA Regiment !/23rd PS FA Battalion I Corps III/Prov'nl SPM Grp -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 110,45 (near Rashin) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 48212 troops, 765 guns, 1600 vehicles, Assault Value = 1758 Defending force 1649 troops, 18 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 21 Allied adjusted assault: 983 Japanese adjusted defense: 1 Allied assault odds: 983 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 1681 casualties reported Squads: 50 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 103 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 16 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 19 (19 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units destroyed 1 Allied ground losses: 48 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Assaulting units: 77th Tank Brigade 46th Engr-Sapper Bde 1st Amurskaya Tank Brigade 76th Tank Brigade 126th Rifle Division 75th Tank Brigade 47th Engr-Sapper Bde 72nd Tank Brigade 105th Rifle Division 190th Rifle Division 3rd Amurskaya Tank Brigade 215th Howitzer Regiment 15th Army 1132nd Howitzer Regiment 1132nd Howitzer Regiment 1192nd BM Howitzer Regiment 424th Hvy Howitzer Regiment 52nd Cannon Regiment 1134th Howitzer Regiment 199th BM Howitzer Regiment 78th/186th PVO AA Battalion 1194th BM Howitzer Regiment 145th Howitzer Regiment Defending units: 9th Border Defense Fortress -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pretty good day in the air again. Lots of Wildcat ops losses, probably due to the days they've been on CAP duty here. Gotta get out and replenish, although there are NO USN fighters available until the F4F-4 begins production in a month. [:(] [image]local://upfiles/37283/65143793845D437998ACF0E6E1F34686.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (8/11/2017 10:36:07 AM)
BB losses Here is the beginning of a record of ship losses to date. The BBs at PH were hit hard, and Force Z was used hard, with Repulse going down near Balikpapan after a massive bombardment of that base. It did open up a lot of opportunities for strategic work in the area so it may have been worth the loss. The PoW made it out and is at Cape Town repairing. The four remaining BBs in PH will stay there for an extended period rather than trying to negotiate a return to the West Coast for a faster repair. I'd rather not risk them. I don't believe these Japanese BBs are lost, just injured. Yamashiro is still hopefully on her way through a net of subs at some point to get home. I think she's stopped off near Jolo to get us off the track, but not entirely sure. [image]local://upfiles/37283/9B3AB129322F4BA1888B42CE1F89B042.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (8/11/2017 10:38:38 AM)
CV losses This still hurts. Akagi was hit by a sub but should be fine. Ryujo however will eventually be on this list, as she was confirmed sunk by aircraft losses on the day. [image]local://upfiles/37283/E21F91ED5C764E98997B10029B708000.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (8/11/2017 10:41:18 AM)
CA/CL Losses I've lost a few too many USN CA/CL. The last few CL around Singers hurt as I couldn't put down the damaged IJN CAs, which have now vanished. This is the story of the game. IJN ships winning battles, decisively sinking Allied ships, then limping off to be repaired. Damn. A few more might be on this list, and the most recent a bit of a gift in the North, sunk by CV air judging from the Petes lost on the ground today! [&o] [image]local://upfiles/37283/564DF6034E40446A8FFBD568CAEA2568.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (8/11/2017 10:46:04 AM)
DD losees This is the one area the IJN is really hurting. Of the starting 90-100 DD/TB/E they get, he's lost 52!! This will mean subs could have a lot of success in the future outside the IJN ASW air umbrella. There may even be a few more to add here after recent air strikes and mine hits at Singers. The Allies have lost 42 DDs, not a small amount for sure, but many are the four stackers and old Dutch and RN DDs that just aren't ready for a fight with the new IJN models. The KB alone should eventually need 20-25 DDs for escort and ASW, and that doesn't leave too many for SCTFs and none for fast tanker or troop ship escorts. [image]local://upfiles/37283/1F09493D2AF946D2916C42E451A5FA45.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (8/11/2017 10:48:10 AM)
SUB losses Pretty minor of both sides so far. The I-boats had been pretty quiet until last turn. [image]local://upfiles/37283/3C7D54454A464EB3BA8E7D50D104D739.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (8/11/2017 10:56:36 AM)
SINGAPORE A report on the base. It's Feb 1. This is taking a while for Japan. Allied strength here is growing. Supply is still being produced. Forts are increasing. Commanders have ALL been switched out for major HQ and infantry units, as well as some AA and Singers Fortress. This is a base he has tried to work on in several ways. First through air power, suffering once the P-38s arrived to get at the sweepers and the P-40E and P-39D set up shop to hit bombers. He hasn't tried anything but sweeps here for many weeks. The BB bombardment were hurting, but the last addition of mines by CM Abdiel proved decisive. A TF of 2 BB and 7 DDs tried for a hit and got nailed. I'll keep adding to the pile and continue the close in patrols of the 25 Dutch, USN and RN subs now here. I've also just added Dutch PT boats to the base!! Been trying to get them here for a while, and finally sneaked some in. I find PTs can really help lure ships into the mine fields. Now if the troops experience levels have time to increase after prepping fully, this will really be a tough spot. In another month it could have 1300 AV and 5 forts. Yikes! [8D] [image]local://upfiles/37283/70CB33DE633343BA9AF177F4D96CF84F.jpg[/image]

ny59giants -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (8/11/2017 2:22:33 PM)
Each side is short on DDs in '42. This is going to hurt Jeff in long run. As Allies, the loss of the two modern American CLs hurt the most. What has Japan gained in Oil centers? The more you can hurt him there, the shorter the war will be.

Lokasenna -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (8/11/2017 3:33:29 PM)
Is this based on scenario 1, or 2? With scenario 1, he's going to be short on DDs right quick.

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (8/11/2017 3:40:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants Each side is short on DDs in '42. This is going to hurt Jeff in long run. As Allies, the loss of the two modern American CLs hurt the most. What has Japan gained in Oil centers? The more you can hurt him there, the shorter the war will be. He doesn't have is Magwe, which should auto-flip very soon. I plan to bomb it ASAP. In addition, he has lost 98 from Djambi, about another 109 from Palembang. I think 59 from Balikpapan and 27 from Samarinda. He's lost all 30 from Shikuka, and may still lose the base. From Rashin 4 have been hit, and I think some also at Yamagata and Asahikawa. He hasn't taken Medan yet, Tarakan or Babo and Boela.

Bif1961 -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (8/11/2017 10:53:10 PM)
Your losses will be made good in 43-45 his never will be especially CAs. He is in serious trouble with his escorts and it is only Feb 42.

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (8/11/2017 11:51:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lokasenna Is this based on scenario 1, or 2? With scenario 1, he's going to be short on DDs right quick. This is based on Scen 1.

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (8/12/2017 8:41:30 AM)
Feb 1, 1942 Ok. So I have the next replay and CR. Still won't report on everything until I see the run, but it looks like the CVs get out of the major area of danger around Hokkaido. He does spot them, but I sent in a bombardment using the Soviet DDs at what seemed his biggest field in range, Bihoro. The red lines of previous attacks showed that this was the origination point for the Nettie strike. I wish I had some more of these!! (Although it's good I don't have to pronounce their names anytime soon!) [:)] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 1, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Bihoro at 123,51 Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses G3M2 Nell: 29 damaged G3M2 Nell: 1 destroyed on ground Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 6 damaged L3Y2 Tina: 4 damaged Allied Ships DD Raziashchij DD Rekordnyj DD Revnostnyj DD Reshitelnyj DD Rastoropnyj DD Ryanyj Japanese ground losses: 8 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 8 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 22 Port hits 4 Port fuel hits 2 DD Raziashchij firing at Bihoro DD Rekordnyj firing at Bihoro DD Revnostnyj firing at Bihoro DD Reshitelnyj firing at Bihoro DD Rastoropnyj firing at Bihoro DD Ryanyj firing at Bihoro -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/344C7105AADC4B47B6181F3B9E71DCE9.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (8/12/2017 8:45:59 AM)
Feb 1, 1942 He spotted us close to Etorofu in the night, and out here during the day. I tried to head in a direction I thought would not be the most likely. Also, there is fuel unloading at Petropavlovsk that I may need after a flank run. [:)] [image]local://upfiles/37283/5D0905B277BC4B35AB7178ABEA856966.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (8/12/2017 8:54:22 AM)
Feb 1, 1942 In another interesting development, the IJA tanks do not attack at Kiuchuan out in Western China. There are two units installed there now. About 80 of our bombers fly and can't get a single hit. I'm hoping his supply is at least being stretched by these guys. I flew at 2k but the bombers are using only half loads so I'll move them up tomorrow and try again. All bases have adequate supply they're flying from. Gotta hit the tanks!! [image]local://upfiles/37283/688C9BB3529144EEA20AFBBA54BFC84A.jpg[/image]

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