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Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/27/2021 10:49:22 AM)

April 23, 1942

Another miss...at some point our subs have to hit, don't they?





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Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/27/2021 10:50:10 AM)

Their subs do!



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Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/27/2021 10:51:09 AM)

Crossed orders causes two ships lost...sigh.[&:]

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Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/27/2021 10:54:02 AM)

Allied High Command sent 7 PT boats up on a suicidal charge into Rockhampton, they didn't have enough fuel to return...but their goal was to deplete the ammo in the numerous IJN cruisers and perhaps battleships in the area in an attempt to prevent a naval bombardment on the grunts at Rockhampton....

They all died in two fights...the weather was clear and engagement ranges were long...

but then the Desrons were planned to enter Rockhampton, along with subs...



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Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/27/2021 10:57:19 AM)

We are jumping back and forth between Ceylon and Australia...but our small desron attempting a shot a the ammo depleted IJN cruiser, runs into the returning IJN desron led by Tanaka....more carnage!

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Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/27/2021 10:58:21 AM)

How bout that![:)]

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Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/27/2021 10:59:29 AM)

Major oops![:(]

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Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/27/2021 11:16:17 AM)

I could play movement games and get into Bowen as the IJA unit moves south, they have no vehicles, so delay my movement this turn and enter next....but that isn't the play I think. At some point Japan will start aerial bombing I think.

Time for all the troops to leave Rockhampton I think and get away from the bombardments. I have got a good shot at controlling the road north up to Rockhampton and isolating the troops at Bundaberg. And at present I don't want more desperate measures...better a force in being near Rockhampton threatening...than a shattered retreating force.

Japan is using LRCAP with range...so a more aggressive sweeping will start to catch them away from Rockhampton. The Dutch Mitchells ran into a solo Zero over Bowen.







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Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/27/2021 11:44:08 AM)

1 point of fire [X(][:(]. As Japan that ship would have to be at sea for the fire to be put out...dare I dock her, supposedly immune to sub attack, and put up a stiff CAP...with orders to disband at the end of the turn...but then what about another destroyer raid.

Japan seems to really like to go for the kills...so I suspect port raids and perhaps a destroyer raid might occur.

Meanwhile, I can start unleashing the Allied air force...Although I am waiting for 2 more HQas to arrive, I can fully stack every airfield. Do I bomb the port, the runways, attack the ships, etc., etc. Choices.

I think I should wait for the HQa to arrive at Madras before I attack with bombers during the day...perhaps that will lull the Japanese into putting the CA into the shipyards?

With one cruiser sunk, another torpedoed, I think I can venture some bombardment task forces towards Colombo too...



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JohnDillworth -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/27/2021 12:32:48 PM)

Disband and cap-trap. She can only make 1 knot. She will be a magnet of for every airplane within 500 miles. Try to make virtue of necessity and take as many planes & pilots down with her as you can.




BBfanboy -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/27/2021 1:06:59 PM)

+1. At the very least the minor float damage needs to be pumped out before attempting to move her. That will likely improve her speed as well - you might even get her up to 3 knots! [:D]




mind_messing -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/27/2021 1:41:51 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Pure nailbiting time! It looks bleak here, Japan will most likely shock attack today!

Ground combat at Rockhampton (95,152)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 29686 troops, 258 guns, 165 vehicles, Assault Value = 922

Defending force 23198 troops, 438 guns, 611 vehicles, Assault Value = 600

Japanese adjusted assault: 355

Allied adjusted defense: 234

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2072 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 123 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 44 disabled
Vehicles lost 25 (2 destroyed, 23 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
324 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 20 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 59 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 27 (3 destroyed, 24 disabled)
Vehicles lost 120 (50 destroyed, 70 disabled)





I want to think that the IJ have ran out of steam here.

I don't see a riff-raff of IJA units dislodging the US 41st backed by that many tanks. In terms of your vehicle losses, were those 50 destroyed mostly motorized support or was that a tank unit that got the short end of the stick?




CaptBeefheart -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/28/2021 2:31:11 AM)

If memory serves, you get three infantry battalions each in Alaska and Hawaii. Your ideal atoll garrison would be one of those, a Marine defense battalion, a Stuart battalion and a USAAF or USN base force, plus coastal AAA and arty battalions. A separate inf regiment could work as well, but that would tend to crowd the place.

That said, I don't think garrisoning atolls in CenPac with an eye to defense fits your play style. If you maintain the initiative, it won't matter. By the time he has decent prep points for an invasion you'll be threatening somewhere else.

Cheers,
CB




apbarog -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/28/2021 2:38:26 AM)

There are some Canadian infantry units that are nicely sized for defending islands. They are poor quality to start out with, but they do upgrade. I used one to free up a US infantry division on Pearl Harbor, after the threat of any invasion there had passed.




Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/28/2021 10:50:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: CaptBeefheart

If memory serves, you get three infantry battalions each in Alaska and Hawaii. Your ideal atoll garrison would be one of those, a Marine defense battalion, a Stuart battalion and a USAAF or USN base force, plus coastal AAA and arty battalions. A separate inf regiment could work as well, but that would tend to crowd the place.

That said, I don't think garrisoning atolls in CenPac with an eye to defense fits your play style. If you maintain the initiative, it won't matter. By the time he has decent prep points for an invasion you'll be threatening somewhere else.

Cheers,
CB


I need some units to fill out Wake, with troop withdraw...plus when I take Canton, I want to immediately fill it with prepped troops for defense and get the invasion troops off.

So think offensive defense...I know the chance of IJN having a counter invasion force prepped might be high here in 1942.








Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/28/2021 10:52:43 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: apbarog

There are some Canadian infantry units that are nicely sized for defending islands. They are poor quality to start out with, but they do upgrade. I used one to free up a US infantry division on Pearl Harbor, after the threat of any invasion there had passed.


I actually bought out two Canadian units, I think they were destroyed in Hong Kong, refilled them ever so slowly and now they are in Tahiti area. They are decent for rear area, but replacement rates very low for front line. Might make a decent unit for Wake as filler.

Good idea about using them in high fort rear areas...




Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/28/2021 10:56:02 AM)

Our stricken battleship is disbanded in port and hopefully we can put the fires out...the harbor is patrolled by a SAG, and planes are flying CAP.

Sweeping Colombo with a squadron, preparing for a big aerial offensive tomorrow if the HQa arrives at Madras, maybe even if it doesn't.

Going to hold ground at Rockhampton and see what happens today, did a fair bit of wonky movement to get timing right on advances, not too quick, just right. Going for hexside control and also Bowen.

I think IJA recon is weak...try and use that to our advantage.

Several sweeps to catch bleeding CAP...





Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/28/2021 10:58:57 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Many years ago when I spoke with John E (DBB developer) about the apparent lack of heavy artillery for the Allies, he told me the best units to use in that roll are the American CD units. I would ship 2 to 4 of them to Australia and use them for your push up the eastern coast. They will also be good at firing back of Nathan's bombardment TFs.


I have a 155mm Art unit unloading at Sale, another day and they will head north.

I have a bunch of the 6" Aus CD units running around, but I haven't really been bombarding with them much.

It seems the 4.5", 25#, and 18" are tough to bombard with as they take too much counterbattery fire.

I will scour the OOB for some of the US CD units, but they are far away I fear. Good idea![&o]




Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/28/2021 2:19:12 PM)

April 24, 1942

Destroyer skirmish near Rockhampton...



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Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/28/2021 2:23:47 PM)

Round 2, these Farragut destroyers are pretty weak fighting warships & lack radar -- decent ASW now though. At least they have 5" guns.





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Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/28/2021 2:25:35 PM)

The Aoba was off Rockhampton, but doesn't bombard...looks like they retreated back up the coast.

Night Air attack on TF, near Rockhampton at 95,153

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Allied aircraft
TBD-1 Devastator x 4

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x TBD-1 Devastator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Night Air attack on TF, near Rockhampton at 95,153

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Allied aircraft
SB2U-3 Vindicator x 7

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x SB2U-3 Vindicator releasing from 10000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb




Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/28/2021 2:28:10 PM)

Good thing, because the IJA attacks again at Rockhampton. No air or sea bombing prior. A couple of armored units and the 4.5" guns don't come out of reserve no pursuit mode. Japanese armor is north of Rockhampton, 4 units, recovering and securing the route I guess.

Ground combat at Rockhampton (95,152)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 27559 troops, 254 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 740

Defending force 20174 troops, 432 guns, 455 vehicles, Assault Value = 528

Japanese adjusted assault: 340

Allied adjusted defense: 304

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2415 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 80 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 33 disabled

Allied ground losses:
422 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 45 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 21 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 29 (2 destroyed, 27 disabled)
Vehicles lost 41 (1 destroyed, 40 disabled)

Assaulting units:
65th Brigade
21st Infantry Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
21st Ind.Mixed Brigade
2nd Engineer Regiment
4th Brigade
4th Div /1
45th Field AA Battalion
48th Field AA Battalion
48th Field Artillery Regiment
47th Field AA Battalion
35th JNAF AF Unit
22nd Air Flotilla
97th JAAF AF Bn

Defending units:
182nd Infantry Regiment
2/4th Armoured Regiment
2/6th Armoured Regiment
41st Infantry Division
2/8th Armoured Regiment
2/5th Armoured Regiment
13th Australian Brigade
97th Coast AA Regiment
2nd Medium Regiment
108th Anti Tank Regiment
21/22 Field Regiment

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Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/28/2021 2:33:25 PM)

The infamous slow fire...probably try to limp to Calicut today and put out the one point of fire, got 200 naval support on the way. Little easier to protect at Calicut I think.

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Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/28/2021 2:56:28 PM)

Will start the process of moving out of Rockhmapton today...our tanks need to recover, Japan has the coastal hexside roads, and will be content to continue pushing on Bundaberg.

We will put a combat move from the armor resting southwest of Rockhampton into Rockhampton to keep Japan guessing about our intentions here...but will begin the retreat which will take 2 days to get out.

Our troops picked up experience from 52 to 61.

Would be nice to get all the Australian infantry off militia.[:)] Plus in a week we will actually have one full strength Australian Tank unit with Grant/Lees, or Lee/Grants. You know what I mean.



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RangerJoe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/28/2021 3:06:33 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

The infamous slow fire...probably try to limp to Calicut today and put out the one point of fire, got 200 naval support on the way. Little easier to protect at Calicut I think.

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Tell the crew to quit grilling their food, finish their beer, and put out the fire. There was an American airman who was presented with the Medal of Honor for putting out a fire on his B-17 "with the only liquid available."[:D]




RangerJoe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/28/2021 3:07:57 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

The Aoba was off Rockhampton, but doesn't bombard...looks like they retreated back up the coast.

Night Air attack on TF, near Rockhampton at 95,153

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Allied aircraft
TBD-1 Devastator x 4

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x TBD-1 Devastator bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Night Air attack on TF, near Rockhampton at 95,153

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Allied aircraft
SB2U-3 Vindicator x 7

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x SB2U-3 Vindicator releasing from 10000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb


Are the Devastators set to torpedo or bomb? If they are set to torpedo with none available they might carry four 500 lb bombs. Or are they attacking at 5 hex range?

Since the Vindicators are not dive bombing, you might want to lower their altitude.




BBfanboy -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/28/2021 4:17:59 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Will start the process of moving out of Rockhmapton today...our tanks need to recover, Japan has the coastal hexside roads, and will be content to continue pushing on Bundaberg.

We will put a combat move from the armor resting southwest of Rockhampton into Rockhampton to keep Japan guessing about our intentions here...but will begin the retreat which will take 2 days to get out.

Our troops picked up experience from 52 to 61.

Would be nice to get all the Australian infantry off militia.[:)] Plus in a week we will actually have one full strength Australian Tank unit with Grant/Lees, or Lee/Grants. You know what I mean.



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Looks like he is replenishing his bombardment TFs at Townsville. If he does not have much land unit strength there and your unit takes Bowen, it might be able to race all the way up there and take Townsville - evicting the AKEs he must have there.

Alternately, if his fighters are busy protecting his LCUs further south, a port bombing of Townsville could pay off.




Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/28/2021 4:30:34 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe


Are the Devastators set to torpedo or bomb? If they are set to torpedo with none available they might carry four 500 lb bombs. Or are they attacking at 5 hex range?

Since the Vindicators are not dive bombing, you might want to lower their altitude.


The Vindicators are there for intel gathering, rather than making hits.

We will see if the Devastators carrying more ammo...although I am happy with double 500#.






Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/28/2021 4:33:53 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Will start the process of moving out of Rockhmapton today...our tanks need to recover, Japan has the coastal hexside roads, and will be content to continue pushing on Bundaberg.

We will put a combat move from the armor resting southwest of Rockhampton into Rockhampton to keep Japan guessing about our intentions here...but will begin the retreat which will take 2 days to get out.

Our troops picked up experience from 52 to 61.

Would be nice to get all the Australian infantry off militia.[:)] Plus in a week we will actually have one full strength Australian Tank unit with Grant/Lees, or Lee/Grants. You know what I mean.



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Looks like he is replenishing his bombardment TFs at Townsville. If he does not have much land unit strength there and your unit takes Bowen, it might be able to race all the way up there and take Townsville - evicting the AKEs he must have there.

Alternately, if his fighters are busy protecting his LCUs further south, a port bombing of Townsville could pay off.


I am trying to figure out how to hit Townsville...I need 13 hexes unless I set some Cats to the job. Once torpedoes are at Marysborough, I met turn off all search and recon and just cover Townsville for a deep strike.

Charleville is set to go to level 2 in day or two...10 hexes from there to Townsville. Marysborough is 3(47) AF. Charleville 1 (85).




castor troy -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/28/2021 4:42:56 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe


quote:

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe


Are the Devastators set to torpedo or bomb? If they are set to torpedo with none available they might carry four 500 lb bombs. Or are they attacking at 5 hex range?

Since the Vindicators are not dive bombing, you might want to lower their altitude.


The Vindicators are there for intel gathering, rather than making hits.

We will see if the Devastators carrying more ammo...although I am happy with double 500#.






They will carry 2x500lb bombs instead of a torpedo




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