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Lokasenna -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (5/16/2017 4:06:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: obvert quote: ORIGINAL: Lokasenna The USN has much larger fuel bunkers on their ships. The CVs alone have Endurance values north of 10K. I didn't need oilers for my trip to Japan in April '42, not like Japan needs oilers if they want to hang around Hawaii at all. Sure. When did you do that though? Mind messing is saying that I should have gone to the HI instead of to the DEI. Although I'd have loved to hit some industry in the Home Islands, it just wasn't feasible at this point in game with the fuel the CVs begin with and the available mobile replenishment options in the first two weeks of the war. We traded a couple of sentences about your operation in an email. No reason I can't just basically repeat what I said, which is simply that I agree with your strategic goals on it but I would never have entered the Makassar Strait at this date unless I had managed to fly USN Catalinas to the area to get eyes on Jolo and the Java Sea approaches. I probably would've just tried bombing Balikpapan from the eastern side of the Celebes, honestly. Or Samarinda. Each point costs 1000 supply and 1000 days before Japan makes that back.

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (5/16/2017 8:58:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lokasenna quote: ORIGINAL: obvert quote: ORIGINAL: Lokasenna The USN has much larger fuel bunkers on their ships. The CVs alone have Endurance values north of 10K. I didn't need oilers for my trip to Japan in April '42, not like Japan needs oilers if they want to hang around Hawaii at all. Sure. When did you do that though? Mind messing is saying that I should have gone to the HI instead of to the DEI. Although I'd have loved to hit some industry in the Home Islands, it just wasn't feasible at this point in game with the fuel the CVs begin with and the available mobile replenishment options in the first two weeks of the war. We traded a couple of sentences about your operation in an email. No reason I can't just basically repeat what I said, which is simply that I agree with your strategic goals on it but I would never have entered the Makassar Strait at this date unless I had managed to fly USN Catalinas to the area to get eyes on Jolo and the Java Sea approaches. I probably would've just tried bombing Balikpapan from the eastern side of the Celebes, honestly. Or Samarinda. Each point costs 1000 supply and 1000 days before Japan makes that back. I agree. I had Vindicators at Macassar searching the Sulu Sea and PBYs at Ambon with the Dutch boats and other light bombers at Tarakan, Several recon planes at Cebu. It was pretty covered, but still missed some. I want to own what happened. It was two days there, one day too many. My mistake as I've said numerous times, but strategically, it was the right choice based on my goals to hit the oil and sink or damage as many IJN forces as possible to limit next stage options for mid-42. I stand by that.

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (5/17/2017 7:10:35 PM)
SINGAPORE Here is a pic of what is here. One last Malaya brigade is being flown down into the city, which is another 40 AV. The forts are 3.55 and increasing with little bombing so far on the base. With supply at ~63k and fuel ~58k I feel like the base is in decent shape. the sooner the Japanese cross the sooner the industry stops producing of course, but it seems like they don't yet have the forces ready. Reinforcements are off for the large majority of units, with a few base forces allowed to add, hoping to get some more engineers and tractors to build forts faster. I've now changed the two division commanders and the Aussie brigade commanders, plus a few of the Bn commanders for the ones with Indian or British squads. If disabled squads have time to repair, there will be up to around 1350AV here. [image]local://upfiles/37283/322D5A193E4A46DB8D31F6A3BBA4A305.jpg[/image]

Simonsez -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (5/17/2017 7:24:55 PM)
Questions: What is your view on placing small AV units in reserve mode? I assume that you'd keep the small units in play for the initial crossing assault to give you the highest possible AV value, but is there any sense in putting them in reserve mode for later combats in order to preserve their AV as long as possible? Small units seem to get chewed up fast in large brawls between divisions. How much extra supply have you managed to pour into Singers? With that amount of AV behind forts, supply might become a determining factor for how long you hold out. What about fighters to delay airfield damage so that forts can continue to build?

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (5/17/2017 8:29:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Simonsez Questions: What is your view on placing small AV units in reserve mode? I assume that you'd keep the small units in play for the initial crossing assault to give you the highest possible AV value, but is there any sense in putting them in reserve mode for later combats in order to preserve their AV as long as possible? Small units seem to get chewed up fast in large brawls between divisions. How much extra supply have you managed to pour into Singers? With that amount of AV behind forts, supply might become a determining factor for how long you hold out. What about fighters to delay airfield damage so that forts can continue to build? There is no extra supply. Just what was on Malaya originally, but I tried to draw it all down. As above, currently that's ~63k. The HI/LI are still producing though, so even though the forts use some, it's holding steady now. The AA will mostly protect the base. It's going to be difficult for the IJAAF to strike here without a lot of losses, but fighters are in base now as well. If I can get Hurris here that would be nice, but they're not around until next month. Every unit will be in combat mode for any water crossing shock attack. I don't care if they evaporate, but all the troops, guns and vehicles available will make the crossing harder. No sense in saving them for later. The crossing has the most potential to wreck some IJA troops.

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (5/17/2017 8:45:05 PM)
A view of the area. Notice the subs around the mini-Kb, in the area near the tip of the Celebes which the KB might have moved through, and less visible, the 3 sitting in the Balikpapan hex. About 20 subs are approaching North of New Guinea toward Ambon. [image]local://upfiles/37283/80DB1FF6F8E84B609D0C554A1A3961E9.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (5/18/2017 9:52:21 AM)
The battles around Palembang continue. The devastated USN CA force tries to move back to Singers but the Chester and DDs had extensive damage. The 2 CA/ 2 CL force that moved in last turn to sink four IJN DDs now finds more CL/DD TFs flooding into the area. In a running battle the USN eventually punishes the IJN but not without some pain. I still don't know the image results, but some shots were landed as shown below. Luckily no long lance hits. We've been lucky there. The night experience of these ships is 60+ now, which is great if they can live to fight another day. The IJN CAs Maya and Atago disbanded in Palembang, and more will be seen of them soon. [:)] AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 08, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Palembang at 48,91, Range 6,000 Yards Japanese Ships CL Isuzu CL Kuma, Shell hits 5 DD Shirayuki, Shell hits 1 DD Yakaze DD Tachikaze Allied Ships CA Northampton CA Houston CL Honolulu, Shell hits 2 CL Boise, Shell hits 3 DD Craven Reduced visibility due to Rain with 64% moonlight Maximum visibility in Rain and 64% moonlight: 6,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Palembang at 48,91, Range 4,000 Yards Japanese Ships CL Isuzu, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage CL Kuma, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Shirayuki, Shell hits 1 DD Yakaze DD Tachikaze, Shell hits 1 Allied Ships CA Northampton, Shell hits 2 CA Houston, Shell hits 1 CL Honolulu, Shell hits 1 CL Boise DD Craven, Shell hits 1 Poor visibility due to Rain with 64% moonlight Maximum visibility in Rain and 64% moonlight: 4,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Palembang at 48,91, Range 4,000 Yards Japanese Ships DD Shirayuki, Shell hits 15, and is sunk DD Yakaze, Shell hits 4, on fire Allied Ships CA Northampton CA Houston CL Honolulu CL Boise DD Craven, on fire Low visibility due to Rain with 64% moonlight Maximum visibility in Rain and 64% moonlight: 4,000 yards [image]local://upfiles/37283/65605419C1B641C0AB11DA36BA554ABC.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (5/18/2017 10:02:04 AM)
Another battle with CL/DD develops after this one. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Palembang at 48,91, Range 6,000 Yards Japanese Ships CL Nagara, Shell hits 1 CL Yura DD Yamagumo DD Harusame, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Kiku Allied Ships CA Northampton CA Houston, Shell hits 2 CL Honolulu CL Boise, Shell hits 3 DD Craven, on fire Reduced visibility due to Rain with 64% moonlight Maximum visibility in Rain and 64% moonlight: 6,000 yards CA New Orleans is sunk by Haruna after refusing to take on more fuel from ships in the TF. Really odd that I couldn't refuel her. Maybe damage made it impossible? She went to 0 and the DDs had plenty to get to Singers and could have topped her up. Sad how this has played out. A waste for sure. Nice to see he's running BBs around with one DD though. I will vector subs accordingly!! [:)] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Groot Natoena at 57,84, Range 6,000 Yards Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses SOC-1 Seagull: 3 destroyed Japanese Ships BB Haruna CA Furutaka DD Sagiri Allied Ships CA New Orleans, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk Low visibility due to Rain with 64% moonlight Maximum visibility in Rain and 64% moonlight: 6,000 yards Range closes to 11,000 yards...

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (5/18/2017 10:18:22 AM)
The Perth and Mauritius hit Mersing again, but it looks like some planes are based at Johore Bharu too. Might have to pay some attention there in coming turns. Messing port takes hits and some oaks should be burning out there soon with al of the air and naval strikes hitting them. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Mersing at 51,82 Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses F1M2 Pete: 2 damaged F1M2 Pete: 1 destroyed on ground Japanese Ships xAK Mito Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire xAK Tokiwa Maru, Shell hits 1 xAK Tarayasu Maru, Shell hits 1, heavy damage xAK Maebasi Maru, Shell hits 1, heavy damage Allied Ships CL Mauritius Japanese ground losses: 534 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 13 destroyed, 27 disabled Engineers: 2 destroyed, 7 disabled Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled) Airbase hits 5 Airbase supply hits 7 Runway hits 24 Port fuel hits 1 Port supply hits 1 Walrus II acting as spotter for CL Mauritius CL Mauritius firing at Mersing [image]local://upfiles/37283/7E5608AB31EF425BA96FF0C7D54551E2.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (5/18/2017 10:24:12 AM)
Now this is what I'm talking about!! [&o] Talk about persistence. The commander of the KVIII is hunted by Ikazuchi early in the night but continues to stalk and finds a chance to get at CVE Taiyo for one hit from four launched. One more please!! I feel like we're damaging a lot but not killing these ships off. I may have to pay some attention to Balikpapan port if it looks like the fields there are still damaged and there isn't a solid CAP up. The fun may end in Balikpapan hex now as mines have been installed. I'll pull subs out to the safer areas around the port. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Balikpapan at 64,97 Japanese Ships DD Ikazuchi Allied Ships SS KVIII SS KVIII is sighted by escort KVIII bottoming out .... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Balikpapan at 64,97 Japanese Ships CVE Taiyo, Torpedo hits 1 DD Ikazuchi Allied Ships SS KVIII SS KVIII launches 4 torpedoes at CVE Taiyo KVIII bottoming out .... DD Ikazuchi fails to find sub, continues to search... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 465 encounters mine field at Balikpapan (64,97) Allied Ships SS KXIV, Mine hits 1, heavy damage [image]local://upfiles/37283/EC6192C861EA4043995BC1759684D5DD.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (5/18/2017 10:36:27 AM)
Even better!!! [X(][&o] Yamashiro (if this is correct info and not Fuso) takes another fish!! This would be three for her, and if it is I need to hunt her down and deliver the final blow somehow. Solid work from the USN getting some torpedoes to blow up here. Two so far in the war and no two great big targets. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Donggala at 69,96 Japanese Ships BB Yamashiro, Torpedo hits 1 SC Ch 4 Allied Ships SS Sturgeon SS Sturgeon launches 4 torpedoes at BB Yamashiro Sturgeon diving deep .... [image]local://upfiles/37283/88CB9296BFD649C0B19677EA1EEF3B35.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (5/18/2017 10:39:43 AM)
Vals show up unexpectedly and from the image it looks like most Allied ships are under the clouds. The AMc patrolling become targets, which is great, and get obliterated. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Singkep at 49,88 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 2 D3A1 Val x 23 Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 24 Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 12 Japanese aircraft losses D3A1 Val: 2 damaged Allied Ships AMc Rahman, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk AMc Jerantut, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk Aircraft Attacking: 6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb [image]local://upfiles/37283/5542B7491D424B05AD585AAEA46757E0.jpg[/image]

Lokasenna -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (5/18/2017 12:47:37 PM)
The ship names displayed in animations and combat reports are always, always, always 100% accurate. Whether that torpedo did any damage is another matter [;)]. What damage messages did you see?

witpqs -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (5/18/2017 3:40:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lokasenna The ship names displayed in animations and combat reports are always, always, always 100% accurate. Whether that torpedo did any damage is another matter [;)]. What damage messages did you see? Mmm - I thought the ship names in combat reports were subject to some FOW??

BBfanboy -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (5/18/2017 5:13:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: witpqs quote: ORIGINAL: Lokasenna The ship names displayed in animations and combat reports are always, always, always 100% accurate. Whether that torpedo did any damage is another matter [;)]. What damage messages did you see? Mmm - I thought the ship names in combat reports were subject to some FOW?? Not sure which is the FOW - combat report or animation - but I have seen mismatches between them so one of them is not always accurate. I suspect the animation because during the animation you sometimes get aircraft attacking a ship class whose image is not represented in the animation (i.e. the aircrew have misidentified a target). E.G., I had aircraft attacking CV Shokaku and the text in the animation said "attacking a Japanese CVL". The ID of Shokaku seems more believable because it was identified as such in every other attack and it was in KB (where a CVL would be unlikely).

Lokasenna -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (5/18/2017 5:44:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: witpqs quote: ORIGINAL: Lokasenna The ship names displayed in animations and combat reports are always, always, always 100% accurate. Whether that torpedo did any damage is another matter [;)]. What damage messages did you see? Mmm - I thought the ship names in combat reports were subject to some FOW?? They absolutely are not. I don't know that any dev has ever said so either way, but I've never seen ship names vary in combat reports. Ever.

Lokasenna -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (5/18/2017 5:46:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy Not sure which is the FOW - combat report or animation - but I have seen mismatches between them so one of them is not always accurate. I suspect the animation because during the animation you sometimes get aircraft attacking a ship class whose image is not represented in the animation (i.e. the aircrew have misidentified a target). E.G., I had aircraft attacking CV Shokaku and the text in the animation said "attacking a Japanese CVL". The ID of Shokaku seems more believable because it was identified as such in every other attack and it was in KB (where a CVL would be unlikely). I never have. The ship(s) shown in the picture part of the animation is always the same as the ship(s) shown in the combat report text. What I think may be being conflated here is when it says "SBD Dauntless attacking Kongo-class Battleship" when it shows BB Fuso on the screen, for example. Those messages should be taken with boulders of salt - they are like the non-animation search result messages in the air phases ("B5N2 Kate attacking DD Fletcher; ...DD Fletcher reported HIT", etc.).

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (5/18/2017 8:35:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lokasenna The ship names displayed in animations and combat reports are always, always, always 100% accurate. Whether that torpedo did any damage is another matter [;)]. What damage messages did you see? No messages. Just a hit. No extras. [:(]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (5/18/2017 8:39:15 PM)
Sally's hit Singkawang. I'd moved some fighters here just by chance en route to Singers that couldn't make the jump in one turn. Good timing. Got about 5-6 Sallys and the fields did take damage, but they're not closed. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Singkawang , at 56,88 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-21-IIa Sally x 26 Allied aircraft Buffalo I x 5 P-40B Warhawk x 1 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21-IIa Sally: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Buffalo I: 2 damaged Buffalo I: 1 destroyed on ground Allied ground losses: 22 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 6 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 29 Aircraft Attacking: 21 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb CAP engaged: 24th PG/20th PS with P-40B Warhawk (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000. Raid is overhead No.453 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 8000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes [image]local://upfiles/37283/DE881BF95FAC4DCBA44252F28F46A43E.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (5/18/2017 8:47:06 PM)
Then the Allied 4Es go too Palembang. Some successful strikes here. Lots of hits on the CAs and CL in port, plus a bunch on xAKs that reported OIL CARGO BURNING, which I'll take as a positive sign! [:D] Still no penetrations to CAs and I'm simply unable to get planes that drop 1000lb bombs to hit a port. Always get caught just as the CAP is able to function again. I may have to try to knock out the fields with the 4Es and then hit later with the Banshees and Vincents. Lost a good number of the Banshees today, which sucks. CL Natori did take some penetrating hits though, so could be in trouble, finally. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 9 Ki-27b Nate x 7 Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 1 Allied aircraft B-17D Fortress x 6 B-17E Fortress x 14 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses B-17E Fortress: 6 damaged Japanese Ships CL Natori, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage DD Kiku, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DMS W-3, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk PB Yahonui Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires CA Maya, Bomb hits 1 CA Atago, Bomb hits 2, heavy damage xAK Iwashiro Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire Port hits 1 Port supply hits 2 Aircraft Attacking: 3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 5000 feet * Port Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 6 Ki-27b Nate x 2 Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 1 Allied aircraft A-24 Banshee x 10 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses A-24 Banshee: 5 destroyed A-24 Banshee: 1 destroyed by flak Aircraft Attacking: 1 x A-24 Banshee releasing from 3000' Port Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb 2 x A-24 Banshee releasing from 4000' Port Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 2 Ki-27b Nate x 2 Allied aircraft B-17D Fortress x 4 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses B-17D Fortress: 3 damaged Japanese Ships CA Maya, Bomb hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 2 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 1 Ki-27b Nate x 2 Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 6 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged Japanese Ships CA Maya, Bomb hits 2 CL Natori, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Nankai Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire [image]local://upfiles/37283/0DE5F94423A145868F9E1EE24D48DA18.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (5/18/2017 8:49:50 PM)
The Vals finally found the important ships toward the end of the day, and knocked 3 x 250kg into Northampton plus one into Boise. Haven't seen the final damage yet. I hope they can still get out and away. Fingers crossed. [image]local://upfiles/37283/E3CBFE9B116B4CC5BBFD0119B26523F1.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (5/18/2017 8:51:10 PM)
Some Cats tried a torpedo attack on the Haruna and Furataka, but no luck. Damn! [image]local://upfiles/37283/30BD0828814344E5BAC575BE5554E478.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (5/18/2017 8:53:26 PM)
Vincents all the way from NZ gave it the old college try, but no luck. [image]local://upfiles/37283/C3729BCAD3E74584AFDDF07115FF57F8.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (5/18/2017 8:54:28 PM)
Some Beasts did their job though and put another CL in jeopardy. [image]local://upfiles/37283/FC434F73499C444ABBE491C6FD0F3681.jpg[/image]

paullus99 -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (5/18/2017 8:56:16 PM)
I haven't been following too closely, but it appears that you're going all out to try to cripple the IJN surface force right off the bat? I guess, based on what you know you've got for mid-war reinforcements, you're not all that concerned with your own losses, correct? Very interesting gameplay.

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (5/18/2017 8:57:13 PM)
Finally, up North the Japanese try for Kiska, where a small portion of a US regiment sits waiting. We'll see what they've got tomorrow. The IJN CVs look to be supporting. The US CVs are still lurking, thinking, looking for a decent opportunity. Best kept in the dark, under a storm cloud, far over the horizon for now. [image]local://upfiles/37283/25E66FADEADD44C6B7A3BC1C0956EFF6.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (5/18/2017 9:03:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: paullus99 I haven't been following too closely, but it appears that you're going all out to try to cripple the IJN surface force right off the bat? I guess, based on what you know you've got for mid-war reinforcements, you're not all that concerned with your own losses, correct? Very interesting gameplay. Well, I had a plan to use the Kbs known position at PH for a week to move the USN CVs to raid Cent Pac and then on to the DEI to hit oil and delay some invasions. It turned bigger than that when he stayed longer than expected. I extracted the USN from PH and ran everything West. It was going well until I made a poor choice to roll the dice and stay one extra day in the Macassar straits in the hope of extracting the PoW and hitting his injured ships at Balikpapan. i didn't spot several TFs arriving, and got caught. A week later and two CVs under. [:(] Still battling though, and although that is a massive negative, about 100 points of oil has been taken off, numerous IJN ships severely damaged or sunk (for a larger tithe of Allied ships unfortunately), but we're still fighting here and hopefully delaying next level moves in several ways. It's been fun, and I've learned a ton. I'm not cavalier about the Allied forces and obvious advantage of massive later replacements, but think the value of the goal here is more important than a late 42 goal of moving forward in the Pacific.

SqzMyLemon -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (5/18/2017 10:59:29 PM)
I think you'll be fine. Those early DD losses will hurt Lowpe and that may influence his task force compositions moving forward. Perhaps some future invasion task forces will be under escorted and provide you plenty of opportunities to interdict. I think the losses you've sustained are worth it. You've already started the attrition of the Japanese surface forces far sooner than I'm sure Lowpe would like.

Lokasenna -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (5/18/2017 11:58:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: obvert quote: ORIGINAL: Lokasenna The ship names displayed in animations and combat reports are always, always, always 100% accurate. Whether that torpedo did any damage is another matter [;)]. What damage messages did you see? No messages. Just a hit. No extras. [:(] I'd be surprised if she even needed yard time, then. Typically those kinds of hits on BBs result in a couple points of System and maybe a point or two of major flooding, and a handful of minor flooding (maybe).

Lokasenna -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (5/18/2017 11:59:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: obvert quote: ORIGINAL: paullus99 I haven't been following too closely, but it appears that you're going all out to try to cripple the IJN surface force right off the bat? I guess, based on what you know you've got for mid-war reinforcements, you're not all that concerned with your own losses, correct? Very interesting gameplay. Well, I had a plan to use the Kbs known position at PH for a week to move the USN CVs to raid Cent Pac and then on to the DEI to hit oil and delay some invasions. It turned bigger than that when he stayed longer than expected. I extracted the USN from PH and ran everything West. It was going well until I made a poor choice to roll the dice and stay one extra day in the Macassar straits in the hope of extracting the PoW and hitting his injured ships at Balikpapan. i didn't spot several TFs arriving, and got caught. A week later and two CVs under. [:(] Still battling though, and although that is a massive negative, about 100 points of oil has been taken off, numerous IJN ships severely damaged or sunk (for a larger tithe of Allied ships unfortunately), but we're still fighting here and hopefully delaying next level moves in several ways. It's been fun, and I've learned a ton. I'm not cavalier about the Allied forces and obvious advantage of massive later replacements, but think the value of the goal here is more important than a late 42 goal of moving forward in the Pacific. Honestly, it may be a net benefit to you as you'll be less prone to succumbing to unnecessary risks until you get the Essexes [;)].

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